Comments on: Mixed people don’t “Survive” http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/ Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:08:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: justin http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-17438 justin Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:31:44 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-17438 Hmmph, are Cook islanders mixed or is that a myth perpetuated to challenge Maori sovereignty (?) and there are some nation/state issues going on in that article as well. If five Polynesians were on Survivor I hope they would be given five machetes, courtesy of home depot, so they can hack their Gilligan’s island, Tiki bar sets to pieces. and I wonder what the reaction would have been If this series was set on Mururoa or Bikini Atoll inside some kind of dome where Tina Turner is queen and all the aboriginal people have become anglo-saxons… Hmmph, are Cook islanders mixed or is that a myth perpetuated to challenge Maori sovereignty (?) and there are some nation/state issues going on in that article as well.
If five Polynesians were on Survivor I hope they would be given five machetes, courtesy of home depot, so they can hack their Gilligan’s island, Tiki bar sets to pieces.
and I wonder what the reaction would have been If this series was set on Mururoa or Bikini Atoll inside some kind of dome where Tina Turner is queen and all the aboriginal people have become anglo-saxons…

]]> By: chuka http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16999 chuka Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:31:15 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16999 private dancer:- black people do think of themselves as black...and on the same vein, i think "white" people should get their colours right and start describing themselves as "pink." the first thing i saw on this page was the south park picture...and i think its misplaced. doesnt anyone else? and i think the Cappelle show should be banned...and i'm black private dancer:-
black people do think of themselves as black…and on the same vein, i think “white” people should get their colours right and start describing themselves as “pink.”

the first thing i saw on this page was the south park picture…and i think its misplaced. doesnt anyone else? and i think the Cappelle show should be banned…and i’m black

]]> By: Ann http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16662 Ann Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:33:28 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16662 Private Dancer. "I guess it depends on how you think of the word "black" or of American blackness." That is what I meant, PD. When I look in a mirror, I see a "black person" knowing that also in there within is white and native blood, the same make-up that is familiar to the many "black" people of the Diaspora. That is why I ended my comment with the following quote: "Yeah, that's what a "black" person in America is." I know that I am "black", no matter how light-brown I am, and I am proud to be black. Private Dancer.

“I guess it depends on how you think of the word “black” or of American blackness.”

That is what I meant, PD. When I look in a mirror, I see a “black person” knowing that also in there within is white and native blood, the same make-up that is familiar to the many “black” people of the Diaspora.

That is why I ended my comment with the following quote:

“Yeah, that’s what a “black” person in America is.”

I know that I am “black”, no matter how light-brown I am, and I am proud to be black.

]]> By: Merq http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16654 Merq Fri, 01 Sep 2006 20:34:57 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16654 Private dancer: I don't believe they're poking fun at stereotypes. Instead, they're going the "hip, irreverent racism" route. Private dancer:
I don’t believe they’re poking fun at stereotypes. Instead, they’re going the “hip, irreverent racism” route.

]]> By: private dancer http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16557 private dancer Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:05:21 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16557 Ann: "And as far as mixed races go, black people in America can not even call themselves “black”." i guess it depends on how you think of the word "black" or of American blackness. For most people that i know who define themselves as black (myself included) this white and native american historical mixture is part of the definition of being black or black American (or being of African descent in many/most places in the Americas for that matter). Merq: I'd be interested in hearing you expound more on how South Park is racist. I've only recently ever seen episodes since they've been appearing on regular network tv. And while some of it makes me laugh, other portions of it give me pause, for example the oversexed character of Chef (categorization: black buck). And the other day an episode aired where they had an Asian man--complete with slits of cardboard for eyes, speaking Engrish and sitting in a Chinese restaurant (cat.: permanent foreigner?)--build a wall around the town and fight off Mongolians. It was awful. I guess they're supposed to be poking fun at these stereotypes...I guess. I'm not clear. I suppose my confusion falls in line with past commentary about hipsters/ironic humor and racism and whether making fun of stereotypes by embracing them some how rids them of their racist implications. Ann:

“And as far as mixed races go, black people in America can not even call themselves “black”.”

i guess it depends on how you think of the word “black” or of American blackness. For most people that i know who define themselves as black (myself included) this white and native american historical mixture is part of the definition of being black or black American (or being of African descent in many/most places in the Americas for that matter).

Merq:

I’d be interested in hearing you expound more on how South Park is racist. I’ve only recently ever seen episodes since they’ve been appearing on regular network tv. And while some of it makes me laugh, other portions of it give me pause, for example the oversexed character of Chef (categorization: black buck). And the other day an episode aired where they had an Asian man–complete with slits of cardboard for eyes, speaking Engrish and sitting in a Chinese restaurant (cat.: permanent foreigner?)–build a wall around the town and fight off Mongolians. It was awful.

I guess they’re supposed to be poking fun at these stereotypes…I guess. I’m not clear. I suppose my confusion falls in line with past commentary about hipsters/ironic humor and racism and whether making fun of stereotypes by embracing them some how rids them of their racist implications.

]]> By: Merq http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16484 Merq Fri, 01 Sep 2006 02:21:35 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16484 <i>" That show is the only show that makes off-color (pun intended) remarks that I can laugh at w/o fearing coonery."</i> That makes one of us. As far as I'm concerned, South Park is one of the most racist shows on TV. ” That show is the only show that makes off-color (pun intended) remarks that I can laugh at w/o fearing coonery.”

That makes one of us. As far as I’m concerned, South Park is one of the most racist shows on TV.

]]> By: Gandalf Mantooth http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16459 Gandalf Mantooth Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:57:16 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16459 nipples . . . . uhhh One of my editors (and a good friend) has a pretty funny comment on this whole thing. It helps to parse this if you know some US pop culture history. Or are old, as we are. http://www.nashvillescene.com/blog/pitw/archives/00001070.shtml nipples . . . . uhhh

One of my editors (and a good friend) has a pretty funny comment on this whole thing. It helps to parse this if you know some US pop culture history. Or are old, as we are.

http://www.nashvillescene.com/blog/pitw/archives/00001070.shtml

]]> By: Lyonside http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16452 Lyonside Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:46:54 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16452 Ann: Oh that's awesome... I can see it now - not a check-all-that-apply, but a "keep the most likely/preferred" series of boxes... Ann: Oh that’s awesome… I can see it now - not a check-all-that-apply, but a “keep the most likely/preferred” series of boxes…

]]> By: Ann http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16449 Ann Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:26:56 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16449 Pure races. As if such a thing ever existed in the world. There has always been racial/genotype/phenotype over-lapping in all the races around the world. And as far as mixed races go, black people in America can not even call themselves "black". Maybe the following category would be more appropriate in describing us: "Sub-Saharan-English-Irish-Cherokee-Choctaw-Seminole-Scots-Chicasaw-Creek-Chinese/Black Americans". Yeah, that's what a "black" person in America is. Pure races.

As if such a thing ever existed in the world. There has always been racial/genotype/phenotype over-lapping in all the races around the world.

And as far as mixed races go, black people in America can not even call themselves “black”.

Maybe the following category would be more appropriate in describing us:

“Sub-Saharan-English-Irish-Cherokee-Choctaw-Seminole-Scots-Chicasaw-Creek-Chinese/Black Americans”.

Yeah, that’s what a “black” person in America is.

]]> By: site admin http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16439 site admin Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:58:25 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/08/31/mixed-people-dont-survive/#comment-16439 carmen, i hate you for mentioning nipples.... ;) and ew, areola chart? lol. i will be refraining from answering about which team i would be on given carmen's newly suggested criterion. :) ~JC carmen, i hate you for mentioning nipples…. ;) and ew, areola chart? lol. i will be refraining from answering about which team i would be on given carmen’s newly suggested criterion. :) ~JC

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