Comments on: Why the fashion industry desperately needs some diversity http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/ Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:04:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: August 2006 New Demographic Newsletter at New Demographic - an anti-racism training company http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-20739 August 2006 New Demographic Newsletter at New Demographic - an anti-racism training company Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:32:06 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-20739 [...] Carmen comments on an article about the cosmetic industry and it spins into an interesting debate about the cross-section of race and fashion. [...] […] Carmen comments on an article about the cosmetic industry and it spins into an interesting debate about the cross-section of race and fashion. […]

]]> By: ATR 32 - July 17, 2006 - Voicemail 206-203-3983 - addictedtorace@gmail.com at Addicted to Race http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-13224 ATR 32 - July 17, 2006 - Voicemail 206-203-3983 - addictedtorace@gmail.com at Addicted to Race Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:08:14 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-13224 [...] RANT The coded ways people talk about race without appearing to talk about race is the subject of Carmen’s rant today. For more on this topic, check out Ally Work’s post with excerpts from Uprooting Racism: How White People Can Work for Racial Justice by Paul Kivel. To see the correspondence that sparked this rant, see here, here, here and here. [...] […] RANT The coded ways people talk about race without appearing to talk about race is the subject of Carmen’s rant today. For more on this topic, check out Ally Work’s post with excerpts from Uprooting Racism: How White People Can Work for Racial Justice by Paul Kivel. To see the correspondence that sparked this rant, see here, here, here and here. […]

]]> By: Mixed Media Watch - tracking media representations of mixed people http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-12148 Mixed Media Watch - tracking media representations of mixed people Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:30:10 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-12148 [...] RANT The coded ways people talk about race without appearing to talk about race is the subject of Carmen’s rant today. For more on this topic, check out Ally Work’s post with excerpts from Uprooting Racism: How White People Can Work for Racial Justice by Paul Kivel. To see the correspondence that sparked this rant, see here, here, here and here. [...] […] RANT The coded ways people talk about race without appearing to talk about race is the subject of Carmen’s rant today. For more on this topic, check out Ally Work’s post with excerpts from Uprooting Racism: How White People Can Work for Racial Justice by Paul Kivel. To see the correspondence that sparked this rant, see here, here, here and here. […]

]]> By: Boas Blog » Blog Archive » Kimora Lee Simmons, Maasai Warrior http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-12082 Boas Blog » Blog Archive » Kimora Lee Simmons, Maasai Warrior Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:00:20 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-12082 [...] “Um… Simmons wasn’t discovered in a remote Kenyan village or an ancient area of Kyoto”, writes Van Kerkhove, “She’s from St. Louis, Missouri, for Christ’s sake”. Van Kerkhove ends by writing “If the fashion industry were a little more diverse, it might realize that Asian and black and Latina women are actual human beings who also buy clothes. We’re not just jungle savages or coy geishas or sultry nymphomaniacs you can use as props in your ads.” [...] […] “Um… Simmons wasn’t discovered in a remote Kenyan village or an ancient area of Kyoto”, writes Van Kerkhove, “She’s from St. Louis, Missouri, for Christ’s sake”. Van Kerkhove ends by writing “If the fashion industry were a little more diverse, it might realize that Asian and black and Latina women are actual human beings who also buy clothes. We’re not just jungle savages or coy geishas or sultry nymphomaniacs you can use as props in your ads.” […]

]]> By: site admin http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-12046 site admin Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:54:30 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-12046 Susanna, the only comments I have deleted on this blog have been some ring-tone related spam over the past couple of days. It's possible that I deleted a legit comment by mistake. If so, please feel free to re-comment. If it still doesn't show up for any reason, please email your comments to me and I'll post them for you. --CVK Susanna, the only comments I have deleted on this blog have been some ring-tone related spam over the past couple of days. It’s possible that I deleted a legit comment by mistake. If so, please feel free to re-comment. If it still doesn’t show up for any reason, please email your comments to me and I’ll post them for you. –CVK

]]> By: Susanna http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-12042 Susanna Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:28:02 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-12042 Hi, I'd appreciate it if you had the decency to erase ALL of my comments, and not only those ones who have a more serious critique of the Zeitgeist than you can bear. I'd appreciate it very much if I would know I do not have to let myself be thrown into the same basket together with people who can handle stupid, emotional anti-Semitism, but not substantial critique about the way the Holocaust is dealt with, which has no chance yet to show in this forum. Hi, I’d appreciate it if you had the decency to erase ALL of my comments, and not only those ones who have a more serious critique of the Zeitgeist than you can bear.
I’d appreciate it very much if I would know I do not have to let myself be thrown into the same basket together with people who can handle stupid, emotional anti-Semitism, but not substantial critique about the way the Holocaust is dealt with, which has no chance yet to show in this forum.

]]> By: real men are not » Blog Archive » 1-and-2-and-1-and-2 and heel-toe, heel-toe: i’m a vitriol spewin’ angry race junkie! http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-11732 real men are not » Blog Archive » 1-and-2-and-1-and-2 and heel-toe, heel-toe: i’m a vitriol spewin’ angry race junkie! Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:37:03 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-11732 [...] I was disheartened to read a post on Almost Girl who responded to a post over at Mixed Media Watch written by Carmen. Carmen’s post is about racism in the fashion business and it’s a great read that gathers and comments on a lot of different aspects/bits/news-pieces of the fashion biz as of late. When Kimora Lee-Simmons is referred to as a “Masai warrior,” I don’t know how you can sit there and tell me that that’s not fucked up. It’s also important to note that despite Carmen’s in-depth post that talks about an array of race/skin color issues in fashion that are not all one-and-the-same, Almost Girl’s over-arching umbrella response is basically this: [...] […] I was disheartened to read a post on Almost Girl who responded to a post over at Mixed Media Watch written by Carmen. Carmen’s post is about racism in the fashion business and it’s a great read that gathers and comments on a lot of different aspects/bits/news-pieces of the fashion biz as of late. When Kimora Lee-Simmons is referred to as a “Masai warrior,” I don’t know how you can sit there and tell me that that’s not fucked up. It’s also important to note that despite Carmen’s in-depth post that talks about an array of race/skin color issues in fashion that are not all one-and-the-same, Almost Girl’s over-arching umbrella response is basically this: […]

]]> By: Mixed Media Watch - tracking media representations of mixed people http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-11725 Mixed Media Watch - tracking media representations of mixed people Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:46:48 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-11725 [...] I blogged on Friday about the ridiculous ways in which the fashion industry exoticizes and thereby dehumanizes women of color (see original post here), citing as examples a New York Times fashion writer who compared Kimora Lee Simmons to Masai warrior and geisha, and the way a Prada spokesperson described the all-Asian cast in the new Miu Miu campaign as “warrior dolls.” [...] […] I blogged on Friday about the ridiculous ways in which the fashion industry exoticizes and thereby dehumanizes women of color (see original post here), citing as examples a New York Times fashion writer who compared Kimora Lee Simmons to Masai warrior and geisha, and the way a Prada spokesperson described the all-Asian cast in the new Miu Miu campaign as “warrior dolls.” […]

]]> By: Almost Girl » Blog Archive » Race, Class and Fashion: Or I Am Going To Get In So Much Trouble http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-11709 Almost Girl » Blog Archive » Race, Class and Fashion: Or I Am Going To Get In So Much Trouble Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:42:21 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-11709 [...] Sigh…...............I recently got an email from fellow blogger and fan of Almost Girl Carmen Van Kerckhove who blogs at Mixed Media Watch about race issues and diversity about a piece in the NYTS called She’s Like a Rainbow on racism in fashion called Why Fashion Desperately Needs Some Diversity [...] […] Sigh………………I recently got an email from fellow blogger and fan of Almost Girl Carmen Van Kerckhove who blogs at Mixed Media Watch about race issues and diversity about a piece in the NYTS called She’s Like a Rainbow on racism in fashion called Why Fashion Desperately Needs Some Diversity […]

]]> By: Susanna http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-11640 Susanna Sun, 09 Jul 2006 14:12:59 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/07/07/why-the-fashion-industry-desperately-needs-some-diversity/#comment-11640 Ann, There's a big difference about how white folks talk about women of color in general, and about women of color they know. Black women are ohhhh so beautiful!! As long as they won't come too near and, God forbid, start talking. Remember all these pictures of Native Americans? "These moves! This natural dignity! This grace!" Objections about the looks of women of color start only when white folks want to shut us up. Ann,

There’s a big difference about how white folks talk about women of color in general, and about women of color they know. Black women are ohhhh so beautiful!! As long as they won’t come too near and, God forbid, start talking. Remember all these pictures of Native Americans?
“These moves! This natural dignity! This grace!”
Objections about the looks of women of color start only when white folks want to shut us up.

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