yes we are, for more reasons than i could possibly list here.

and i don’t think the caucasian-american majority (a majority which is rapidly sliding towards minority) can fully appreciate or understand what it means for us not to wear our hair natural.

for those of us who do lead the busy corporate life, sitting under a drier for five hours or wrapping our hair at night is just not feasible, the latter being wholly unattractive should you sleep with a partner.

i wear my hair air-dried most of the time and blow-dried straight on occasion. if i go to the salon, it is quite rare and i have NEVER had a problem finding and retaining a high-powered job due to my hair. i am well-qualified, supremely educated and well-mannered and find that is all i need. and i doubt this scenario applies only to me.

there is an interesting transition going on in america. these conversations prove it.

and in terms of the afore mentioned salon lawsuit, all services and goods should be charged by the hour based on the service. that takes care of that problem, now doesn’t it?

finally, for the edification factor: bi-racial hair can be very tightly coiled as well. i hesitate to use the word coarse, because i have never felt a head of hair that i would qualify with that word…

As for whether Spike Lee shows “reality,” I don’t look to any film to show me “reality.” The medium is by definition allegorical and/or subjective. Doesn’t mean it’s FALSE or TRUE, but somewhere in between, even in a documentary. It’s a false dichotomy that you propose: good vs. bad, angry vs. not angry, rebellion vs. conformity, power vs. powerless. The real world doesn’t work that way.

“What is truth? Is truth unchanging law? We both have truths, are mine the same as yours?”

And yeah, it’s like talking to a wall, but maybe someone else can read this thread and learn a little.

just let it go. you can’t make your views any clearer to him.

First of all tmj, thank you, and I intend to keep being honest.

Others:

Didn’t know that I would create so much controversy.

Let me try this one more time. I know that it is WRONG to assume that black women who wear their hair natural is angry. But I admitted that this is the FIRST image comes into my head. Why? I don’t know, but it DOES. I know that every woman who wears their hair natural can’t possibly be ANGRY. I am speaking of the first IMPRESSION that many get. (Let’s say at a job interview)

I stand by what I said. Given two equally qualified black women, one with pressed hair, the other with natural, and the interviewer is white, guess who gets the job.

And many others feel the same way. If Condi Rice suddenly decided to wear dreads or a Cynthia McKinney-like hair style in the picture above there would be a small uproar. Why? Think about it.

Eva:

So basically you are telling me that there are no blacks that fall into the “good hair/bad hair” thing? Never at any time did I say that ALL blacks were like this. But on the other hand, my lying eyes have seen light skinned blacks complimented all the time by other darker skinned blacks for having “pretty hair”.

Are you telling me that Spike’s movie did not reflect reality, even in the most remote way?

UNLISTED- As much as I appreciate your honesty, your opinions about the ANGRY BLACK WOMAN is saddening, and its your opinion and line of thinking to be prejudice and perhaps even racist.

In reference to your miniature information of the Pride Movement, as with any other major political movement, externalization diminishes over time.

Also I must say that in reality these women do not even appear angry, You and people with similar deluded thinking patterns, create mental imageries of this women , and use this ANGRY model to justify this skewed view.

Its also quite comical to see that you admit that your contact with black women outside your professional setting is minimal, doesn’t that automatically disqualify you from making generic observations about such a vast group of people? I guess not, I see that via watching Spike, my bad, studying the works of Spike Lee( lol ) you have some how gained this deep insight into the life of black people as well as the two broad groups that we fall into as Merq put it. Angry and rebellious with natural hair or Conformists who have decided to wear their hair in a way that makes you more accepting of them. Wow. And I thought that we have made some lead way in present day America. Apparently I was mistaken.

And I have to say the media representation of Angry black women via shows was a highlight, which again is more reason in your delusional way of thinking that you are capable of making this assumption.

You must come to realize that a perception is not reason enough to categorize people, and because there are other people that share your thought process does not make it reasonable or valid.

And common deciding what black men like via the picture of Alek Wek, C’MMON, I think that was where I decided that you need to stop while you are at it.

To end this I must say that I too work in corporate America, as well as others here, so you are definitely not providing us some insight that we are not aware of. I must let you know that you do not point out the obvious, oh NO NO NO, you rather showcase your inability to self-reason and determine for yourself what is right or not. And all others this is why we have the issues that we have in Corporate America, LOL

To everyone who made a comment regarding wearing your hair natural for sake of ease and to maintain its health, I hear you. And Meg that was hilarious, that American hair can be talkative, that was a good one, perhaps Unlisted can shed more light on how different hair types convey, perhaps some other movie and talk show have deemed you with wisdom, lol

Because tmj it is a crazy world out there!!lol And I think that black women should demand that we be treated the same as any other women when it comes to hair.