Comments on: Black women lie about rape but white women don’t?

By: merq

merq — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:22:52 +0000

The mainstream media is interestingly close to “right-wing”

By: mr guy

mr guy — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:24:21 +0000

The thing that upset me the most is that the only reason this is such big new is because it involves race.Same race rape happens all the time, yet it’s not that big of a deal in the media.One last thing, just wanted to say, the mainstream media is neither left wing or right wing at least to me.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:53:23 +0000

I don’t have any opinion so far about this case because the facts keep changing. It is my hope that the truth will supercede all of the other discussions. So far, everybody’s story keeps changing. Somebody is lying. I think it is the media (by the way vastly left wing, not right wing) that has injected this case with all of the racial layers, stereotypes, etc. Unfortunately, this is the kind of racial case that the media loves to portray because it boosts ratings, sells papers and increases ad revenue. The biggest problem with this entire debacle (I can’t believe nobody mentioned it here) is that it was the prosecutor who went on interview after interview (about 60) insisting that the rape took place and it was the prosecution that has really played the race card here (Yeah, tell Ice that the DA got his race card) The DA is up for re-election very soon, hmmm. We should never assume that any women is lying when she makes rape allegations. Conversely, we should never assume that an accused rapist is guilty until all of the facts are in. We should all take a deep breath and try to ignore idiots like Rush who spout off nonsense on a daily basis because they get paid to do so. The jury is still way out on this before we start making a case either way.

By: merq

merq — Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:59:31 +0000

“…and the much more serious harms black people endured that most blacks today probably can only imagine (in this country anyway).”

Jeremy Price:

While I agree with much of what you’re saying, I’m a little wary when I hear comments like these, because it seems fairly close to popular contemporary American rhetoric, in the vein of

“ok, we’re sorry about the whole slavery/segregation/racism thing. but all that’s over now, so move on.”

While it’s true that “blacks today can only imagine” certain ills borne of slavery and Jim Crow segregation, there are still numerous very serious ills that are only too real for black people.

By: Jeremy Pierce

Jeremy Pierce — Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:07:18 +0000

I’ve only seen one person referring to Tawana Brawley with respect to this case, so maybe I just don’t have the breadth of exposure to it that you or blac(k)ademic does, but it seems to me that there’s a perfectly reasonable way to bring her name in. If it turns out that this woman is lying, then she is another example of what Tawana Brawley did. If so, then it’s an extremely harmful act of hers. It’s harmful for women. It’s harmful for blacks. It’s especially harmful for black women. The victimology mindset that might have been motivating her (if she indeed was lying, which I’m not saying is the case) is pretty dangerous. If she is lying, then it’s probably at least partly motivated by racial slurs being sent her way by some of these guys. But pretending racial slurs justify calling someone a rapist really does make light of real rape and the much more serious harms black people endured that most blacks today probably can only imagine (in this country anyway). If she is lying, then she and Tawana Brawley are both examples of something that all black people and all women (not to mention white men and anyone else) should oppose very seriously. I think that’s an important enough issue that I see no problem at all bringing in Brawley’s name, as long as it’s clear that you’re not going beyond the evidence to assume that the woman is indeed lying. Some have done that, and shame on them. But I don’t see how the potential of furthering a myth is bad enough that you’ll avoid fighting against a real distortion of the severity of a moral offense that minimizes the kinds of serious suffering that too many people have had to face. So I have great difficulty endorsing your criticism of those who mention Brawleys’s name in this context, unless they explicitly make the kind of connection that I don’t see anyone making (but then I haven’t seen these instance of people talking about her, so maybe they are doing that).

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By: site admin

site admin — Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:09:50 +0000

the other thing that all of this brings up is the age old assumption about black women that they are lascivious, insatiable beasts — definitely a stereotype that was created and solidified during the era of slavery. this basically forgave any rapes that were acted out by slave masters on their slaves. “you can’t blame these white men! the women were asking for it!” seems like that same sentiment exists here… you can’t blame the guys…these “ho’s” were asking for it. it’s truly sickening how hypocritical our society is…valuing the claims of some over others. it’s not really surprising, but that doesn’t make it easier to stomach.

By: merq

merq — Sat, 22 Apr 2006 02:43:38 +0000

that’ll suffice.

By: John

John — Sat, 22 Apr 2006 02:13:35 +0000

The only thing you’re going to get is digital audio of that dope head hanging up the phone.

By: merq

merq — Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:50:43 +0000

mtevc:
if you do, just make sure you share the digital audio with us.