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		<title>By: Salsassin</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/04/13/blackface-outside-the-us/#comment-11641</link>
		<dc:creator>Salsassin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 14:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am highly amused by many of the posts and claims on this thread.  
One, to claim all mentalities on mulatto.org are the same is false.  Many challenge others opinions on a daily basis.  Much more so on One Drop Rule.  To claim every mixed or mulato identified is a nut because of Joan Carradine's rants is highly amusing.  Do I think A.D. Powell is a racist.  I do think she has racialized perceptions, and i have told her so.  Yet she is no where as bad as Joan has ever been.  

As for the claim that all moderators on ODR look white and claim distant mixed ancestry, that is hilarious.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am highly amused by many of the posts and claims on this thread.<br />
One, to claim all mentalities on mulatto.org are the same is false.  Many challenge others opinions on a daily basis.  Much more so on One Drop Rule.  To claim every mixed or mulato identified is a nut because of Joan Carradine&#8217;s rants is highly amusing.  Do I think A.D. Powell is a racist.  I do think she has racialized perceptions, and i have told her so.  Yet she is no where as bad as Joan has ever been.  </p>
<p>As for the claim that all moderators on ODR look white and claim distant mixed ancestry, that is hilarious.<br />
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/04/13/blackface-outside-the-us/#comment-9524</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad,

Most people who call A.D. Powell racist simply do so because her sound and well documented opinions don’t suit their agendas.
A.D. Powell is not enamoured with whiteness. She does not hate blacks, but she does dislike certain attitudes among both blacks and whites. Anybody who really reads her progressive take on history and writings attentively knows why she talks about the notion of multiracial whiteness and exposes the erronous and racist belief that whites are pure. Remember, according to genetic studies 30% of white Americans have DNA which originated in Africa and the average white Brazilian has 28% African ancestry. 

A.D. is dangerous to black male power as well as to black male power aspirations. And no, the fact, that one's ancestors were historical vicitims does not make a person a non-racist, ethical, upright person. 
When I used the expression 'black male power' I was of course talking about relative power, not absolute power. Human power is always relative. Only god has absolute power. Black men do have a lot relative power. As all men they have power over women in general, over black women, over white women and over women of other races. It only takes one individual to have power over another one and often black male individuals have power over individuals of other races (male and female, white and brown) They have this power, they benefit from it and take advantage of it. No, when it comes to power you simply cannot lump everybody of the same race together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,</p>
<p>Most people who call A.D. Powell racist simply do so because her sound and well documented opinions don’t suit their agendas.<br />
A.D. Powell is not enamoured with whiteness. She does not hate blacks, but she does dislike certain attitudes among both blacks and whites. Anybody who really reads her progressive take on history and writings attentively knows why she talks about the notion of multiracial whiteness and exposes the erronous and racist belief that whites are pure. Remember, according to genetic studies 30% of white Americans have DNA which originated in Africa and the average white Brazilian has 28% African ancestry. </p>
<p>A.D. is dangerous to black male power as well as to black male power aspirations. And no, the fact, that one&#8217;s ancestors were historical vicitims does not make a person a non-racist, ethical, upright person.<br />
When I used the expression &#8216;black male power&#8217; I was of course talking about relative power, not absolute power. Human power is always relative. Only god has absolute power. Black men do have a lot relative power. As all men they have power over women in general, over black women, over white women and over women of other races. It only takes one individual to have power over another one and often black male individuals have power over individuals of other races (male and female, white and brown) They have this power, they benefit from it and take advantage of it. No, when it comes to power you simply cannot lump everybody of the same race together.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalph Mantooth</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/04/13/blackface-outside-the-us/#comment-8481</link>
		<dc:creator>Gandalph Mantooth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 00:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's clarify something. Ganguro gals had nothing to do with imitating black people or wanting to be black or being next to black. That look was based on Hawaiian surfer culture. Buropan was an entirely different Japanese subculture. This is one of the most often repeated misinterpretations about Japanese-Afrifan American relationships. With all the complexity that implies, Ganguro had nothing to do with it. People assume because they tanned their skin, they were somehow imitating black folks. Hey, we aren't the only dark skinned people on the planet, y'all.

Patrick Macias has been following the Gospeller's black face thing for awhile, he's obsessed with it. This isn't the first time the band has donned black face for performances. They aren't obvlivious to the possible reprocussions of such a thing, notice that one of the cats refuses to go out like that. Still, their fans, most of whom are of a different generation, don't see a real problem with it.

There is a strain of dress-up play in Japanese culture. Most of you are aware of the "cosplay" thing; I see this as an unfortunate side effect of that. 

There are plenty of problems with Japan's issues with other races, I don't think this is one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s clarify something. Ganguro gals had nothing to do with imitating black people or wanting to be black or being next to black. That look was based on Hawaiian surfer culture. Buropan was an entirely different Japanese subculture. This is one of the most often repeated misinterpretations about Japanese-Afrifan American relationships. With all the complexity that implies, Ganguro had nothing to do with it. People assume because they tanned their skin, they were somehow imitating black folks. Hey, we aren&#8217;t the only dark skinned people on the planet, y&#8217;all.</p>
<p>Patrick Macias has been following the Gospeller&#8217;s black face thing for awhile, he&#8217;s obsessed with it. This isn&#8217;t the first time the band has donned black face for performances. They aren&#8217;t obvlivious to the possible reprocussions of such a thing, notice that one of the cats refuses to go out like that. Still, their fans, most of whom are of a different generation, don&#8217;t see a real problem with it.</p>
<p>There is a strain of dress-up play in Japanese culture. Most of you are aware of the &#8220;cosplay&#8221; thing; I see this as an unfortunate side effect of that. </p>
<p>There are plenty of problems with Japan&#8217;s issues with other races, I don&#8217;t think this is one.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/04/13/blackface-outside-the-us/#comment-7034</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 06:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pam,

I think A.D. Powell is racist because she writes racist things about "black" people.  In particular, she hates black men with a passion.  As for the "black male power structure,"  what power structure is that and how does it wield its mighty  influence more so than the dominant white, heterosexual male power structure?  Think about the phrase you used, "black male power structure," and the blatant falacy of that implies.  The last time I checked, there were very few "black" men who have much power in our society.  Moreover, how do you define "black"?  Is Colin Powell "black"?  Was Alex Haley "black"?  Is Will Smith "black"?  Is Jesse Jackson "black"?  The fact is that you will have a hard time trying to prove who is mixed vs who is monoracial.  There are enough DNA studies out there that show that 30 to 40% of all African-American men have a Y-chromosome that originated in Europe.   

Moreover, I never said that Powell was not intelligent.  However, being an intelligent person does not make a person a non-racist, ethical, upright citizen.   If you like, I would be happy to point to you several of Powell's incredibly racist and/or cruel comments that litter the Internet.   Powell is enamored with "whiteness" and revolted by "blackness."  In all of her writings, she makes clear that anyone who is mixed-race and chooses an African-American identity is either a fool or a traitor to her vision of mixed-race nirvana.  It's as if, anyone who is mixed-race and has African-Ancestry cares to acknowledge that ancestry with any pride.  

Furthermore, if you read Powell's revisionist take on history, you would think that the world's evils all originated with Africans and that Caucasians are God's gift to humanity.  All human beings are equally capable of both good and evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam,</p>
<p>I think A.D. Powell is racist because she writes racist things about &#8220;black&#8221; people.  In particular, she hates black men with a passion.  As for the &#8220;black male power structure,&#8221;  what power structure is that and how does it wield its mighty  influence more so than the dominant white, heterosexual male power structure?  Think about the phrase you used, &#8220;black male power structure,&#8221; and the blatant falacy of that implies.  The last time I checked, there were very few &#8220;black&#8221; men who have much power in our society.  Moreover, how do you define &#8220;black&#8221;?  Is Colin Powell &#8220;black&#8221;?  Was Alex Haley &#8220;black&#8221;?  Is Will Smith &#8220;black&#8221;?  Is Jesse Jackson &#8220;black&#8221;?  The fact is that you will have a hard time trying to prove who is mixed vs who is monoracial.  There are enough DNA studies out there that show that 30 to 40% of all African-American men have a Y-chromosome that originated in Europe.   </p>
<p>Moreover, I never said that Powell was not intelligent.  However, being an intelligent person does not make a person a non-racist, ethical, upright citizen.   If you like, I would be happy to point to you several of Powell&#8217;s incredibly racist and/or cruel comments that litter the Internet.   Powell is enamored with &#8220;whiteness&#8221; and revolted by &#8220;blackness.&#8221;  In all of her writings, she makes clear that anyone who is mixed-race and chooses an African-American identity is either a fool or a traitor to her vision of mixed-race nirvana.  It&#8217;s as if, anyone who is mixed-race and has African-Ancestry cares to acknowledge that ancestry with any pride.  </p>
<p>Furthermore, if you read Powell&#8217;s revisionist take on history, you would think that the world&#8217;s evils all originated with Africans and that Caucasians are God&#8217;s gift to humanity.  All human beings are equally capable of both good and evil.</p>
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		<title>By: mr guy</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/04/13/blackface-outside-the-us/#comment-6251</link>
		<dc:creator>mr guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree.A.D. Powell or anyone pro or con whatever "agenda" does not speak truth.It's only truth for people who follow the same belief.For everone else it's just opinion.

Anyway, lets get back to the original topic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree.A.D. Powell or anyone pro or con whatever &#8220;agenda&#8221; does not speak truth.It&#8217;s only truth for people who follow the same belief.For everone else it&#8217;s just opinion.</p>
<p>Anyway, lets get back to the original topic</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/04/13/blackface-outside-the-us/#comment-6247</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>concerning Ben F. and Brad.

It seems that they came to MixedMediaWatch in order to put people and sites they disagree with down. How low. 
Calling people racists, because their opinions don't suit their agendas. How childish.

A.D. Powell is extremely intelligent and a pioneer. She speaks the thruth and as we all know truth hurts and is perceived as dangerous. A. D. Powell must be perceived as dangerous to black male power if those agents come here trying to put her down.
The One-Drop-rule is a great forum although it has been envaded by the soulpatrol lately. The owner and many of the moderators however are multiracial, some are white and some are black. 

As for mulatto.org it's a good initiative but unfortunately there is a pro-black bias there which can be offputting at times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>concerning Ben F. and Brad.</p>
<p>It seems that they came to MixedMediaWatch in order to put people and sites they disagree with down. How low.<br />
Calling people racists, because their opinions don&#8217;t suit their agendas. How childish.</p>
<p>A.D. Powell is extremely intelligent and a pioneer. She speaks the thruth and as we all know truth hurts and is perceived as dangerous. A. D. Powell must be perceived as dangerous to black male power if those agents come here trying to put her down.<br />
The One-Drop-rule is a great forum although it has been envaded by the soulpatrol lately. The owner and many of the moderators however are multiracial, some are white and some are black. </p>
<p>As for mulatto.org it&#8217;s a good initiative but unfortunately there is a pro-black bias there which can be offputting at times.</p>
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		<title>By: the joy princess</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/04/13/blackface-outside-the-us/#comment-6238</link>
		<dc:creator>the joy princess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes! The awesome mockumentary C.S.A.: Confederate States of America mentions Darlie (nee Darkie) toothpaste! 

Right up there with the Coon Chicken Inn resturants, Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben's!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes! The awesome mockumentary C.S.A.: Confederate States of America mentions Darlie (nee Darkie) toothpaste! </p>
<p>Right up there with the Coon Chicken Inn resturants, Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben&#8217;s!</p>
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		<title>By: Everett</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/04/13/blackface-outside-the-us/#comment-6236</link>
		<dc:creator>Everett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those people do not have the right to do what they do.  They should investigate Blackface and understand what it means.  Because they are in their country does not make it right.  If I were to form a Asian group painted pink I would be censured here and ran out of town.  We have to be sensitive to individual needs and respect them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those people do not have the right to do what they do.  They should investigate Blackface and understand what it means.  Because they are in their country does not make it right.  If I were to form a Asian group painted pink I would be censured here and ran out of town.  We have to be sensitive to individual needs and respect them.</p>
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		<title>By: tmj</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know how we got to crazy "mulattos" but I too have had that experience!  A woman named Joan Carradine was a member of a Yahoo group NuSoul, supposedly a Black group about life etc.  but Joan does not like Black folks, and it became obvious she was only in the "Black" group to express her dislike of everything "Black".  Joan eventually formed her own group, which consisted of glorifying the term "mulatto" and denigrating black folks, biracials that liked Black folks, and Black folks that consider themselves multi-generational mixed.  I can't tell you how many arguments we had!  I was new to the mulatto movement and was genuinely trying to learn...but Joan was hateful and I ended up really disliking her and everything she stood for, including her minions.  I've since found other biracial folks with the same bent towards hating African ancestry and can see that it is a growing trend.  Very sad.  However, I know that these folks are THANKFULLY the minority, as most mixed folks I've encountered do not use their race(s) to hate others.  Never heard of AD Powell, but it sounds like Joan's mentor.  

And at the risk of being redundant, I too LOVE Mixed Race Watch!  I love how the authors focus on every race, not just their own--which would be normal--and how they approach topics with intelligence rather than hurtful commentary.  Keep up the great work!  

I would also like to say thanks; as a Black female growing up in the Bay Area, I felt pretty knowledgeable about other races and cultures but I have learned soooooo much on this site about Asian culture....things I may never have learned.  Just goes to show that we don't know everything, and can still learn something new everyday!  Thanks so much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how we got to crazy &#8220;mulattos&#8221; but I too have had that experience!  A woman named Joan Carradine was a member of a Yahoo group NuSoul, supposedly a Black group about life etc.  but Joan does not like Black folks, and it became obvious she was only in the &#8220;Black&#8221; group to express her dislike of everything &#8220;Black&#8221;.  Joan eventually formed her own group, which consisted of glorifying the term &#8220;mulatto&#8221; and denigrating black folks, biracials that liked Black folks, and Black folks that consider themselves multi-generational mixed.  I can&#8217;t tell you how many arguments we had!  I was new to the mulatto movement and was genuinely trying to learn&#8230;but Joan was hateful and I ended up really disliking her and everything she stood for, including her minions.  I&#8217;ve since found other biracial folks with the same bent towards hating African ancestry and can see that it is a growing trend.  Very sad.  However, I know that these folks are THANKFULLY the minority, as most mixed folks I&#8217;ve encountered do not use their race(s) to hate others.  Never heard of AD Powell, but it sounds like Joan&#8217;s mentor.  </p>
<p>And at the risk of being redundant, I too LOVE Mixed Race Watch!  I love how the authors focus on every race, not just their own&#8211;which would be normal&#8211;and how they approach topics with intelligence rather than hurtful commentary.  Keep up the great work!  </p>
<p>I would also like to say thanks; as a Black female growing up in the Bay Area, I felt pretty knowledgeable about other races and cultures but I have learned soooooo much on this site about Asian culture&#8230;.things I may never have learned.  Just goes to show that we don&#8217;t know everything, and can still learn something new everyday!  Thanks so much!</p>
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		<title>By: mr guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>mr guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brad Ben F:
I checked out those sites you named.There was a lot of talk about colorblindness,(mostly) black nationalist, soul patrol(lol) etc,etc.Many seemed to talk a lot about what monoraical blacks and whites do, but never themselves.I can imagine people who have a similar background like them, who don't have the same views seen as what they are fighting againt.Never been to mullato yet however.Never knew people wanted to identify as  "mullato".I mean what do you call a half black half asian person?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brad Ben F:<br />
I checked out those sites you named.There was a lot of talk about colorblindness,(mostly) black nationalist, soul patrol(lol) etc,etc.Many seemed to talk a lot about what monoraical blacks and whites do, but never themselves.I can imagine people who have a similar background like them, who don&#8217;t have the same views seen as what they are fighting againt.Never been to mullato yet however.Never knew people wanted to identify as  &#8220;mullato&#8221;.I mean what do you call a half black half asian person?</p>
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