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		<title>By: Tamika</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/28/bashing-jennifer-beals-and-bette-porter/#comment-9620</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>type error mulattoes aren't the only mixed people in the world,And many blacks go through half the things mulattoes go through only thing blacks don't have black and white parentage. I don't mean to offend anyone with the m word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>type error mulattoes aren&#8217;t the only mixed people in the world,And many blacks go through half the things mulattoes go through only thing blacks don&#8217;t have black and white parentage. I don&#8217;t mean to offend anyone with the m word.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamika</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/28/bashing-jennifer-beals-and-bette-porter/#comment-9618</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Black is not a special race?Well black is a special race as any other race God created a persons' race with his own likeness,And a biracial is black and white,so how the hell could one claim not to be part black?Because if they aren't half black they wouldn't be considered a mulatto THEY'LL BE FULLY WHITE.Though I'm an African American I don't believe in the one drop rule,But one myth I can't stand is when they say all mulattoes are light skin?lol really that isn't true at all if it was then I wouldn't have dark skinned  biracials as friends,and being a biracial is'nt based on a persons appearance but by their genes,And have you guys forgotten that "mulattoes" aren't the mixed people in this world.Many blacks in general grow through half of the things mulattoes go through only thing they don't have black and white parentage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black is not a special race?Well black is a special race as any other race God created a persons&#8217; race with his own likeness,And a biracial is black and white,so how the hell could one claim not to be part black?Because if they aren&#8217;t half black they wouldn&#8217;t be considered a mulatto THEY&#8217;LL BE FULLY WHITE.Though I&#8217;m an African American I don&#8217;t believe in the one drop rule,But one myth I can&#8217;t stand is when they say all mulattoes are light skin?lol really that isn&#8217;t true at all if it was then I wouldn&#8217;t have dark skinned  biracials as friends,and being a biracial is&#8217;nt based on a persons appearance but by their genes,And have you guys forgotten that &#8220;mulattoes&#8221; aren&#8217;t the mixed people in this world.Many blacks in general grow through half of the things mulattoes go through only thing they don&#8217;t have black and white parentage.</p>
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		<title>By: Kari</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/28/bashing-jennifer-beals-and-bette-porter/#comment-9501</link>
		<dc:creator>Kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY TO EVERYONE, STOP WITH THIS " BLACK NEGRO"  "THING"  ALL OF YOUR RESPONSES SHOW THAT YOU ARE ALL STILL BRAINWASHED MEANING YOU STILL BELIEVE (IF YOU HAVE ONE DROP OF BLACK YOUR BLACK)&#62; THAT IS A BUNCH OF B.S. WHO EVER MADE THAT CROCK OF ISH UP! WHAT ABOUT ONE DROP OF FILIPINO OR IRISH, ARE YOU GOING TO BE FULL BLOOD IRISH OR FILIPINO, THAT WAS A STUPID RULE TO MAKE UP BECUASE IT CAN'T B BACKED. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PHYSICAL TRAITS YOU GOT! IF YOUR 50% EUROPEAN AND 50%"BLACK THATS WHAT  YOU ARE, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH YOU ARE MORE EUROPEAN, UNLESS ONE OF YOUR PARENTS IS PURE_BLOOD AFRICAN. BECAUSE BLACKS THEMSELVES ARE MULTI-RACIAL WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT POINT, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS RACE WHEN IT COMES TO BLACKS, BECAUSE WERE ALL MULTI-RACIAL! AND WERE NOT ALL MIXED WITH THE SAME THING SO HOW CAN WE IDENTIFY OURSELVES AS OUR OWN ETHNIC GROUP WE ARE NO GROUP. RACE&#62; PEOPLE WHO SHARE COMMON PHYSICAL FEATURES AND LOOK ALIKE, LIKE ASIANS (YOU KNOW ONE WHEN YOU SEE THEM) YOU KNOW AN AFRICAN WHEN YOU SEE ONE. PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE OWN PURE-BREAD RACE LIKE ARABS AND CHALDEANS LOOK ALIKE, BLACKS DON'T SO STOP SAYING OTHER PEOPLE ARE IN DENIAL UNLESS YOU TOTALLY LOOK AFRICAN STOP CLAIMING WHAT  YOUR NOT! AND IF YOU DO DON'T TRY TO MAKE OTHERS DO SOMETHING THEY DON'T WANT! AND BLACK IS NOT THE "SPECIAL" RACE SO STOP TRYING TO MAKE EVERYONE B BLACK ! PLEASE...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY TO EVERYONE, STOP WITH THIS &#8221; BLACK NEGRO&#8221;  &#8220;THING&#8221;  ALL OF YOUR RESPONSES SHOW THAT YOU ARE ALL STILL BRAINWASHED MEANING YOU STILL BELIEVE (IF YOU HAVE ONE DROP OF BLACK YOUR BLACK)&gt; THAT IS A BUNCH OF B.S. WHO EVER MADE THAT CROCK OF ISH UP! WHAT ABOUT ONE DROP OF FILIPINO OR IRISH, ARE YOU GOING TO BE FULL BLOOD IRISH OR FILIPINO, THAT WAS A STUPID RULE TO MAKE UP BECUASE IT CAN&#8217;T B BACKED. IT DOESN&#8217;T MATTER WHAT PHYSICAL TRAITS YOU GOT! IF YOUR 50% EUROPEAN AND 50%&#8221;BLACK THATS WHAT  YOU ARE, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH YOU ARE MORE EUROPEAN, UNLESS ONE OF YOUR PARENTS IS PURE_BLOOD AFRICAN. BECAUSE BLACKS THEMSELVES ARE MULTI-RACIAL WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT POINT, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS RACE WHEN IT COMES TO BLACKS, BECAUSE WERE ALL MULTI-RACIAL! AND WERE NOT ALL MIXED WITH THE SAME THING SO HOW CAN WE IDENTIFY OURSELVES AS OUR OWN ETHNIC GROUP WE ARE NO GROUP. RACE&gt; PEOPLE WHO SHARE COMMON PHYSICAL FEATURES AND LOOK ALIKE, LIKE ASIANS (YOU KNOW ONE WHEN YOU SEE THEM) YOU KNOW AN AFRICAN WHEN YOU SEE ONE. PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE OWN PURE-BREAD RACE LIKE ARABS AND CHALDEANS LOOK ALIKE, BLACKS DON&#8217;T SO STOP SAYING OTHER PEOPLE ARE IN DENIAL UNLESS YOU TOTALLY LOOK AFRICAN STOP CLAIMING WHAT  YOUR NOT! AND IF YOU DO DON&#8217;T TRY TO MAKE OTHERS DO SOMETHING THEY DON&#8217;T WANT! AND BLACK IS NOT THE &#8220;SPECIAL&#8221; RACE SO STOP TRYING TO MAKE EVERYONE B BLACK ! PLEASE&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bealsfan</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/28/bashing-jennifer-beals-and-bette-porter/#comment-7765</link>
		<dc:creator>Bealsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 05:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering that Jennifer Beals' father, who is responsible for the African American part of her make-up) passed away and she was thereafter brought up by her mother, who is Irish, it seems logical that there would be a heavier influence on her life from that particular part of her heritage. Jennifer Beals went to boarding schools, which are in their nature predominanty made up of people who are not African American. She attended Yale, again another place where the population of African American's was very miniscule...as with most college that are not historically African American, especially private ones. I don't her personally as I am sure probably none of you do, how can we say how she grew up, how she went through the world, and how she has lived her life and why things are for her the way they are. 

Perhaps Jennifer Beals has friends and boyfriends (now a husband) who are mostly Caucasian because those are the people who were in the environment she grew up in and exist in today. I am African American and before college I worked at hospital where there were hardly any other African Americans, my friends and colleagues were Caucasian and other groups. I attended a private university and my friends, classmates, and eventually sorority sisters were Caucasian, only 1 other African American besides myself. These people were my friends, sometimes by boyfriends, not because I am hiding from and denying my African American identity but because these were the people around me. I'm not going to deny their friendship or my attractions to them because they don't look like me or fit some mold that others might expect for me. Perhaps Jennifer Beals lives by similar standards.

Since her involvement in The L Word, I have read more comments about Jennifer Beals' race and people trying to impose the "white" or "black" label on her as like a point for their team. I cannot understand why a biracial person cannot identify with whatever label they feel accurately describes them, especially "other" or "neither black or white" or "both black and white" if that is what they are without the world putting them under a microscope and dissecting their lives, who they are friends with, what they do, and however else they choose to live their lives. 

It's sad really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering that Jennifer Beals&#8217; father, who is responsible for the African American part of her make-up) passed away and she was thereafter brought up by her mother, who is Irish, it seems logical that there would be a heavier influence on her life from that particular part of her heritage. Jennifer Beals went to boarding schools, which are in their nature predominanty made up of people who are not African American. She attended Yale, again another place where the population of African American&#8217;s was very miniscule&#8230;as with most college that are not historically African American, especially private ones. I don&#8217;t her personally as I am sure probably none of you do, how can we say how she grew up, how she went through the world, and how she has lived her life and why things are for her the way they are. </p>
<p>Perhaps Jennifer Beals has friends and boyfriends (now a husband) who are mostly Caucasian because those are the people who were in the environment she grew up in and exist in today. I am African American and before college I worked at hospital where there were hardly any other African Americans, my friends and colleagues were Caucasian and other groups. I attended a private university and my friends, classmates, and eventually sorority sisters were Caucasian, only 1 other African American besides myself. These people were my friends, sometimes by boyfriends, not because I am hiding from and denying my African American identity but because these were the people around me. I&#8217;m not going to deny their friendship or my attractions to them because they don&#8217;t look like me or fit some mold that others might expect for me. Perhaps Jennifer Beals lives by similar standards.</p>
<p>Since her involvement in The L Word, I have read more comments about Jennifer Beals&#8217; race and people trying to impose the &#8220;white&#8221; or &#8220;black&#8221; label on her as like a point for their team. I cannot understand why a biracial person cannot identify with whatever label they feel accurately describes them, especially &#8220;other&#8221; or &#8220;neither black or white&#8221; or &#8220;both black and white&#8221; if that is what they are without the world putting them under a microscope and dissecting their lives, who they are friends with, what they do, and however else they choose to live their lives. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad really.</p>
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		<title>By: maestro</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/28/bashing-jennifer-beals-and-bette-porter/#comment-7216</link>
		<dc:creator>maestro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 09:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe its important(as jennifer beals quote suggest)to embrace all aspects of oneself. However, she doesn't seem to practice what she says, especially when u consider she has few black friends, never dates people of color, and removes herself from cultural events that r negro oriented(that are not paying gigs of course). Her quote seems more socially influenced but her lifestyle seems to confirm a salient peace being around her whiter side. Plus, it feels soooo goood to fit in with a more popular group or race. I suspect if half the known world (the colored half) could change themselves to look white they would. Its obscene, but possibly true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe its important(as jennifer beals quote suggest)to embrace all aspects of oneself. However, she doesn&#8217;t seem to practice what she says, especially when u consider she has few black friends, never dates people of color, and removes herself from cultural events that r negro oriented(that are not paying gigs of course). Her quote seems more socially influenced but her lifestyle seems to confirm a salient peace being around her whiter side. Plus, it feels soooo goood to fit in with a more popular group or race. I suspect if half the known world (the colored half) could change themselves to look white they would. Its obscene, but possibly true.</p>
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		<title>By: Damie_Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/28/bashing-jennifer-beals-and-bette-porter/#comment-6034</link>
		<dc:creator>Damie_Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On phenotype preference, I'm quoting research books on the subject of racial discrimination and colorism, written by some sociologist who are multiracial. I can give you references.

I do agree with you that multiracials, Amerindians, Arabs lack power and influence on certain levels than the monoracial identifiers like Whites, Blacks or Latinos have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On phenotype preference, I&#8217;m quoting research books on the subject of racial discrimination and colorism, written by some sociologist who are multiracial. I can give you references.</p>
<p>I do agree with you that multiracials, Amerindians, Arabs lack power and influence on certain levels than the monoracial identifiers like Whites, Blacks or Latinos have.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/28/bashing-jennifer-beals-and-bette-porter/#comment-6021</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 11:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damie_Troy,

I disagree that people who are "less blackish" have less discrimination from non-blacks. I think arabs, latinos, multiracials, and Amerindians for example face discrimination that is at least equal to discrimination faced by black folks. In fact, there's an element of subordination of brown &#38; beige folks to describe our looks as either "blackish" or "whitish". We can be described on our own terms, not relative either black or white.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damie_Troy,</p>
<p>I disagree that people who are &#8220;less blackish&#8221; have less discrimination from non-blacks. I think arabs, latinos, multiracials, and Amerindians for example face discrimination that is at least equal to discrimination faced by black folks. In fact, there&#8217;s an element of subordination of brown &amp; beige folks to describe our looks as either &#8220;blackish&#8221; or &#8220;whitish&#8221;. We can be described on our own terms, not relative either black or white.</p>
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		<title>By: Damie_Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/28/bashing-jennifer-beals-and-bette-porter/#comment-6019</link>
		<dc:creator>Damie_Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If people were just treated equally regardless of phenotype then this wouldn't be an issue. 

So much information shows people who are less blackish have had less discrimination from non-blacks.

So it's easy not be suspicious or angry when your phenotype isn't so racially apparent, and viewed as socially attractive/acceptable to  negrophobes.

Black people know this, and thats why they have these attitudes. This is why prioritizing racial difference over fellow Americanism will always keep us divided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people were just treated equally regardless of phenotype then this wouldn&#8217;t be an issue. </p>
<p>So much information shows people who are less blackish have had less discrimination from non-blacks.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s easy not be suspicious or angry when your phenotype isn&#8217;t so racially apparent, and viewed as socially attractive/acceptable to  negrophobes.</p>
<p>Black people know this, and thats why they have these attitudes. This is why prioritizing racial difference over fellow Americanism will always keep us divided.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/28/bashing-jennifer-beals-and-bette-porter/#comment-5990</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 20:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to go CVK. As you can see even by the responses in this thread, defending mixed-identified folks with white and black heritage against accusations that they are "running away from their blackness" is not an easy job. You will get a lot of negative energy in reply. But, by doing so, you are opening up space for a lot of us who prefer to define our identity on our own terms, rather than be bullied into an identity someone ELSE wants for us.

I'll repost your article to mulatto.org, to show folks how lucky we are that you are fighting the good fight for the right for white/black biracials to choose our identities ourselves.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go CVK. As you can see even by the responses in this thread, defending mixed-identified folks with white and black heritage against accusations that they are &#8220;running away from their blackness&#8221; is not an easy job. You will get a lot of negative energy in reply. But, by doing so, you are opening up space for a lot of us who prefer to define our identity on our own terms, rather than be bullied into an identity someone ELSE wants for us.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll repost your article to mulatto.org, to show folks how lucky we are that you are fighting the good fight for the right for white/black biracials to choose our identities ourselves.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Francis Jacquerye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis Jacquerye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 12:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The nonsense of "racial" classifications is the syllogism that since individuals from various "races" are different, individuals from the same "race" should be similar as far as customs and culture is concerned.

Jennifer Beal just happens to have closer ties with her mother's culture, just like an Anglo-Italian might be closer to the British culture and not the Italian. So why make such a fuss about it?

I guess that according to these critics, mixed individuals should choose to relate to only one of the "races inherited" from their parents or grandparents... and one should preferably pick the lowest/inferior "race" on the "arian/darwinian" scale to avoid being accused of being ashamed of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nonsense of &#8220;racial&#8221; classifications is the syllogism that since individuals from various &#8220;races&#8221; are different, individuals from the same &#8220;race&#8221; should be similar as far as customs and culture is concerned.</p>
<p>Jennifer Beal just happens to have closer ties with her mother&#8217;s culture, just like an Anglo-Italian might be closer to the British culture and not the Italian. So why make such a fuss about it?</p>
<p>I guess that according to these critics, mixed individuals should choose to relate to only one of the &#8220;races inherited&#8221; from their parents or grandparents&#8230; and one should preferably pick the lowest/inferior &#8220;race&#8221; on the &#8220;arian/darwinian&#8221; scale to avoid being accused of being ashamed of it.</p>
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