Comments on: Is Grandma black or white? http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/ Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:04:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Dave http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-18441 Dave Sat, 09 Sep 2006 12:45:27 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-18441 To Hello and Christmas, mulatto.org is a website with hundreds of members and hundreds of expressed views. We try to keep the discussion on the resource message board positive and geared providing resources and community for white/black biracials and supporters of white/black biracial community and empowerment. However, I think if you "psychologically profile" any community of hundreds of people, you'll see some of what you might consider paranoia, and some of what you might consider angst against various populations. No community that large is going to be perfect. Neither is any individual. However, I'm disappointed Christmas in how negatively you describe Mulattogirl17. I think you're completely wrong in your assessment of her, and I think it says a lot more about you than it does about her. She's a wonderful person who has done a tremendous amount to build community at mulatto.org and other places, and the world is a much better place, for hundreds of people, if not more, because she's in it. :) To Hello and Christmas,

mulatto.org is a website with hundreds of members and hundreds of expressed views. We try to keep the discussion on the resource message board positive and geared providing resources and community for white/black biracials and supporters of white/black biracial community and empowerment. However, I think if you “psychologically profile” any community of hundreds of people, you’ll see some of what you might consider paranoia, and some of what you might consider angst against various populations. No community that large is going to be perfect. Neither is any individual. However, I’m disappointed Christmas in how negatively you describe Mulattogirl17. I think you’re completely wrong in your assessment of her, and I think it says a lot more about you than it does about her. She’s a wonderful person who has done a tremendous amount to build community at mulatto.org and other places, and the world is a much better place, for hundreds of people, if not more, because she’s in it. :)

]]> By: Christmas_ http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-15228 Christmas_ Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:15:49 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-15228 It's strange because if you psychologically profile the moderators on mulatto.org you'll uncover hidden angst against black people. Every single one of them has been "traumitized" by blacks in some way. It's sad that now they themselves are "retaliating." There is a girl on there, a moderator, by the name "Mulattogirl17" who was actually born in the Congo (the capital Kinshasha from what I read) but never refers to the country that way. She will refer to the Congo as "Zaire", "Belgian Territory", "an African country", etc. It's funny. Is she that embarassed by her mother country? I mean, YES, we know you're half-white people of mulatto.org, but doesn't "mulatto" mean half-black and half-white? Are you guys actually going to talk about your Black half or sweep it under the rug, if such a thing is phenotypically possible if you're half-black. Hey, "Mulattogirl17", your country's name is "The Congo", "The Congo", don't be ashamed. :) It’s strange because if you psychologically profile the moderators on mulatto.org you’ll uncover hidden angst against black people. Every single one of them has been “traumitized” by blacks in some way. It’s sad that now they themselves are “retaliating.” There is a girl on there, a moderator, by the name “Mulattogirl17″ who was actually born in the Congo (the capital Kinshasha from what I read) but never refers to the country that way. She will refer to the Congo as “Zaire”, “Belgian Territory”, “an African country”, etc. It’s funny. Is she that embarassed by her mother country? I mean, YES, we know you’re half-white people of mulatto.org, but doesn’t “mulatto” mean half-black and half-white? Are you guys actually going to talk about your Black half or sweep it under the rug, if such a thing is phenotypically possible if you’re half-black. Hey, “Mulattogirl17″, your country’s name is “The Congo”, “The Congo”, don’t be ashamed. :)

]]> By: the joy princess http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5976 the joy princess Sun, 02 Apr 2006 23:10:03 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5976 It's the Ford family's call, but they can't all seem to make up their minds, LOL. It’s the Ford family’s call, but they can’t all seem to make up their minds, LOL.

]]> By: Damie_Troy http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5892 Damie_Troy Wed, 29 Mar 2006 05:18:36 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5892 I saw pictures of Ford's grandmother, and she looks like a mixed race lady that's more white. Regardless what we outsiders think, it's the Ford family call on that issue. I saw pictures of Ford’s grandmother, and she looks like a mixed race lady that’s more white.

Regardless what we outsiders think, it’s the Ford family call on that issue.

]]> By: hello http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5884 hello Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:55:55 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5884 I wnet to that mulatto.org site...I can't belive people still think that way. Anyway is this what you were referring to K-Pow? Quoting "Dave" at mulatto.org: "MixedMediaWatch's take: I don't think it comes from a good place in terms of expanding space for mulatto identity, particularly with MGM's. This is, in my opinion part of a general backlash by some to keep multigeneral mulattos from talking about their multiracial heritage and specific white ancestors." Note, Dave posted CVK comments on the controversy concerning Ford's grandmother. Then posted hsi own comments (the quote above). I thought it was pretty unfair to assuem that Mixed media watch doesn't want biracials to speak of their diverse backgrounds. I think Dave is a bit paranoid. I wnet to that mulatto.org site…I can’t belive people still think that way.

Anyway is this what you were referring to K-Pow?

Quoting “Dave” at mulatto.org:

“MixedMediaWatch’s take: I don’t think it comes from a good place in terms of expanding space for mulatto identity, particularly with MGM’s. This is, in my opinion part of a general backlash by some to keep multigeneral mulattos from talking about their multiracial heritage and specific white ancestors.”

Note, Dave posted CVK comments on the controversy concerning Ford’s grandmother. Then posted hsi own comments (the quote above). I thought it was pretty unfair to assuem that Mixed media watch doesn’t want biracials to speak of their diverse backgrounds. I think Dave is a bit paranoid.

]]> By: Unlisted http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5881 Unlisted Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:02:06 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5881 I used to live in Rep Ford's VERY racially polarized district and it seems that in his Senate run that he is trying to somehow cozy up to the (vast majority white) East Tennesseans. It didn't look good It is not more complex than the article stated. To an extent (though they will still support him) the "one rule drop" blacks in his district mostly see it as a 'sell-out' to claim any blood other than 100% African in spite of the fact that he and his family clearly have European ancestry. Many of them are of the opinion that to claim all of your heritage is to deny your heritage. The East Tennesseans will probably NOT support him because of his having African blood. If there is a silver lining, it is that it is making more people in his district see that many of us, to one extent or another, are mixed with something else and it demonstrates how archaic the "one drop rule" really is. I used to live in Rep Ford’s VERY racially polarized district and it seems that in his Senate run that he is trying to somehow cozy up to the (vast majority white) East Tennesseans. It didn’t look good

It is not more complex than the article stated. To an extent (though they will still support him) the “one rule drop” blacks in his district mostly see it as a ’sell-out’ to claim any blood other than 100% African in spite of the fact that he and his family clearly have European ancestry. Many of them are of the opinion that to claim all of your heritage is to deny your heritage.

The East Tennesseans will probably NOT support him because of his having African blood.

If there is a silver lining, it is that it is making more people in his district see that many of us, to one extent or another, are mixed with something else and it demonstrates how archaic the “one drop rule” really is.

]]> By: Dave http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5859 Dave Tue, 28 Mar 2006 03:38:43 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5859 K-Pow, I've posted lots of good stuff about MMW on the website I co-moderate, and I'm sure I will in the future. Folks are free to visit the website and judge for themselves. And I'm sure many folks at our website or elsewhere who support Rep. Ford discussing his white grandmother do so for the best of reasons, rather than for the negative motivations that you ascribe to me and some of the members of our website. K-Pow, I’ve posted lots of good stuff about MMW on the website I co-moderate, and I’m sure I will in the future. Folks are free to visit the website and judge for themselves. And I’m sure many folks at our website or elsewhere who support Rep. Ford discussing his white grandmother do so for the best of reasons, rather than for the negative motivations that you ascribe to me and some of the members of our website.

]]> By: Merq http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5856 Merq Tue, 28 Mar 2006 01:33:57 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5856 Dave: Having a white grandmother is no big deal. I believe it became an issue when another member of his family hinted at that statement being false. Every second, you try to push your site's damn "love union" agenda (sounds like a bad Prince album, but I digress), even when it's really not applicable tot he issue at hand. K-Pow: Could you quote/paraphrase the "subtle [MMW] slam" on Dave's site? I don't think I could possibly go there again. Had a major "Black Man Twilight Zone" vibe when I visited. Dave:
Having a white grandmother is no big deal. I believe it became an issue when another member of his family hinted at that statement being false. Every second, you try to push your site’s damn “love union” agenda (sounds like a bad Prince album, but I digress), even when it’s really not applicable tot he issue at hand.

K-Pow:
Could you quote/paraphrase the “subtle [MMW] slam” on Dave’s site? I don’t think I could possibly go there again. Had a major “Black Man Twilight Zone” vibe when I visited.

]]> By: Ben http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5851 Ben Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:33:12 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5851 This is mildly hilarious and, as Carmen says, utterly trivial. A politician makes a controversial issue out of something totally inconsequential. The media gobble it up. Yawn. But I do love the philosophical question raised: who gets to determine a person's racial identity if that person is, for whatever reason, incapable of determining it herself? Is there a correct answer? This is mildly hilarious and, as Carmen says, utterly trivial.

A politician makes a controversial issue out of something totally inconsequential. The media gobble it up. Yawn.

But I do love the philosophical question raised: who gets to determine a person’s racial identity if that person is, for whatever reason, incapable of determining it herself? Is there a correct answer?

]]> By: K-Pow http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5847 K-Pow Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:19:50 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/27/is-grandma-black-or-white/#comment-5847 That's because all the posters on your trivial website glorify white people and denigrate black people. If his grandmother is white then good for her. What does that have ANYTHING to do with politics? This man has been a congressman for how long, his family played a prominent role in Tennessee politics for how many years and now he finally "reveals" that his grandmother is white? So what, now people are suppose to vote for him? Should we give him a medal? I have no problem with people embracing all sides of their heritage, but just what is the motivation behind this revelation. Also I liked the subtle slam you directed at MMW on your site. What are you, some type of spy. That’s because all the posters on your trivial website glorify white people and denigrate black people. If his grandmother is white then good for her. What does that have ANYTHING to do with politics? This man has been a congressman for how long, his family played a prominent role in Tennessee politics for how many years and now he finally “reveals” that his grandmother is white? So what, now people are suppose to vote for him? Should we give him a medal? I have no problem with people embracing all sides of their heritage, but just what is the motivation behind this revelation.

Also I liked the subtle slam you directed at MMW on your site. What are you, some type of spy.

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