Comments on: Why young people *won’t* be solving racism anytime soon http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/ Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:10:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Niel http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-13627 Niel Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:26:48 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-13627 Matt: Dave Chappelle is a smart man making a humorous comment about race relations in America and using the inverse of a long-standing, very racist form of entertainment from the turn of the century to do so. Katie is a sheltered, ignorant kid hopping around with a girl in clown make-up to represent "the black person" and she doesn't even understand how that could offend anyone, much less understand what her "statement" is saying. Not even close to the same thing. Matt:

Dave Chappelle is a smart man making a humorous comment about race relations in America and using the inverse of a long-standing, very racist form of entertainment from the turn of the century to do so.

Katie is a sheltered, ignorant kid hopping around with a girl in clown make-up to represent “the black person” and she doesn’t even understand how that could offend anyone, much less understand what her “statement” is saying.

Not even close to the same thing.

]]> By: matt http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-6163 matt Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:28:07 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-6163 Why isn't it a racist when Dave Chappelle puts white paint on his face and talks in a stupid tone to act like a white person? Probably because it's not a big deal and neither is this. Why isn’t it a racist when Dave Chappelle puts white paint on his face and talks in a stupid tone to act like a white person?
Probably because it’s not a big deal and neither is this.

]]> By: Lyonside http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5947 Lyonside Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:56:27 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5947 April: WHAT"S your beef again? Noone here is saying that race doesn't matter. So WHY this hostility? For the record, the song is a pop song voicing a speaker's personal opinion that race isn't a factor in who they're with. Now, it's MJ, so I try to remove anything about the actual person from the song. Recording artists are not always the speaker of a song, any more than a writer believes everything that a fictional narrator writes. This blog doesn't trivialize race - why are you tripping? April: WHAT”S your beef again?

Noone here is saying that race doesn’t matter. So WHY this hostility?

For the record, the song is a pop song voicing a speaker’s personal opinion that race isn’t a factor in who they’re with. Now, it’s MJ, so I try to remove anything about the actual person from the song. Recording artists are not always the speaker of a song, any more than a writer believes everything that a fictional narrator writes.

This blog doesn’t trivialize race - why are you tripping?

]]> By: mtevc http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5944 mtevc Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:10:04 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5944 Please katie (even if you are the real katie...or whoever wants to play devil's advocate...for whatever goofy reason I can't figure out...) Of course everyone has the freedom to express whatever dumb emotion they feel (constitutional right...but you also open yourself up for criticism.) And, it is a very defensive posture to assume that because people comment, and do it reasonably, that they are all of a sudden "victims" or overreacting. That is your defensive posture. I don't obsess over trivial and ignorant people. I only point out fact. I don't live my life worried about these things...I also don't live my life by having so-called fun by making fun of other people. That's called racist and low-brow humor. I would call what you do an obsession, and to think it isn't is so very sad for you. It's sad you can't think deeper about your actions. I'm not a victim by any means. I am a successful person, happy in life and able to hang out and chat and be friendly with a variety of individuals...particularly because I am not about to be so flagrant and superficial and so cavalier in my actions. Please katie (even if you are the real katie…or whoever wants to play devil’s advocate…for whatever goofy reason I can’t figure out…) Of course everyone has the freedom to express whatever dumb emotion they feel (constitutional right…but you also open yourself up for criticism.) And, it is a very defensive posture to assume that because people comment, and do it reasonably, that they are all of a sudden “victims” or overreacting. That is your defensive posture. I don’t obsess over trivial and ignorant people. I only point out fact. I don’t live my life worried about these things…I also don’t live my life by having so-called fun by making fun of other people. That’s called racist and low-brow humor. I would call what you do an obsession, and to think it isn’t is so very sad for you. It’s sad you can’t think deeper about your actions. I’m not a victim by any means. I am a successful person, happy in life and able to hang out and chat and be friendly with a variety of individuals…particularly because I am not about to be so flagrant and superficial and so cavalier in my actions.

]]> By: April http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5943 April Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:39:28 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5943 Again, I'll ask. When in the U.S. has it NOT mattered if one is black or white? It wasn't that long ago, in the 70s when we barely made it legal to date interracially. Is an interracial relationship not considered at least a "friendship"? My husband and I are constantly stared at and gawked at by people because I am biracial (black n' white) and he is white. I am only one of many people in the U.S. whom experience discrimination because of our frienship affiliations. So again, I'll ask you . . . when has it not mattered? Do you think it doesn't matter because Michael Jackson says so? Gimme a break. The poor man WANTS to be white, and so far so good. So tell me, with Michael did it matter if he is black or white. You damn right it did. Again, I’ll ask. When in the U.S. has it NOT mattered if one is black or white? It wasn’t that long ago, in the 70s when we barely made it legal to date interracially. Is an interracial relationship not considered at least a “friendship”? My husband and I are constantly stared at and gawked at by people because I am biracial (black n’ white) and he is white. I am only one of many people in the U.S. whom experience discrimination because of our frienship affiliations. So again, I’ll ask you . . . when has it not mattered?

Do you think it doesn’t matter because Michael Jackson says so? Gimme a break. The poor man WANTS to be white, and so far so good. So tell me, with Michael did it matter if he is black or white. You damn right it did.

]]> By: Merq http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5941 Merq Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:36:06 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5941 Why do I get the feeling that "carlos" and "crystal" are merely part of katie's Damage-Control Team? Why do I get the feeling that “carlos” and “crystal” are merely part of katie’s Damage-Control Team?

]]> By: Lyonside http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5939 Lyonside Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:44:58 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5939 April: In the context of the song (basically one fo the last MJ songs I kind of liked) - "If you wanna be my baby it don't matter if you're black or white." Not about US politics or race history. April: In the context of the song (basically one fo the last MJ songs I kind of liked) - “If you wanna be my baby it don’t matter if you’re black or white.” Not about US politics or race history.

]]> By: crystal http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5938 crystal Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:33:37 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5938 imblack and i loved the video i thought it was nice to squash the racism in this world, by using one of my favorite artist's videos. you people should lighten up. imblack and i loved the video i thought it was nice to squash the racism in this world, by using one of my favorite artist’s videos. you people should lighten up.

]]> By: April http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5937 April Fri, 31 Mar 2006 06:13:12 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5937 First of all, let's get something perfectly clear. It DOES matter if you are black or white. When in the U.S. has it NOT mattered? First of all, let’s get something perfectly clear. It DOES matter if you are black or white. When in the U.S. has it NOT mattered?

]]> By: Lyonside http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5935 Lyonside Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:09:17 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/03/26/why-young-people-wont-be-solving-racism-anytime-soon/#comment-5935 Katie: HAH! YOU PEOPLE! The truth... it's uglier than blackface. Katie: HAH! YOU PEOPLE!

The truth… it’s uglier than blackface.

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