I know this is off topic, but I had to get it off my chest. Dave should stop posting a link to his site. He and his crew’s philosophy is contraty to the philosophy of MMW in my opinion.

“Its only natural for a father to care for his child.”

I guess you never heard of the term deadbeat dad?

Your historical take on the intimate relations between white
slave masters and black females slaves is faulty at best. You are horribly nieve if you think that community/family “disapproval” prevented some white slave masters from exploiting their status over black female slaves and taking advantage of these women sexually. Let’s stick with the truth, shall we. What low self-esteem you must have if you feel the need to re-write history to fit your scheme of things. And so what if indentured white women had children by indentured black men. The “mulatto” (how much i hate that term) conceived and born out of such unions still had to cope with the fact that their ethnic background was an automatic strike against them in a racialized society where ‘race matters.’
There were too many mulattos bought and sold as slaves for me to believe that their white fathers “loved them.” Ther might have been exceptions, there are always exceptions, but lets not try to sugar coat things. “Mulattos” has just as difficult a time during slavery as “monoracial” slaves. Many of the women were forced to become the concumbines of their white masters or forced into prostitution. Don’t kid yourself in thinking that a house slave had it any better than a field slave. The lack of humanity some of you “mulattos” display when discussin American history is simply astounding. Don’t any of you care that these were human begins? Regardless of their ethnic backgroung, these were people who were horribly wronged. If you are too myopic and insensitive to appreciate that then perhaps someone should put you in chains…

I think some of you “mulattos” take “mulatto pride” (whihc bascially amounts to white pride) too far. Its one thing to have affinity for your white mother or father who rasied and loved you and treated you as a human being (hopefully.) It is another thing completely to have affinity for and sympathize with people who lived hundreds of years ago and
who would no doubt snub their nose at you and tell you to step back.

Grow up please! Is your self-esteem that low?

As a mulatto I find your anti-mulatto sentiment very disturbing and racist to say the least. Sadly a lot of black people still take advantage of the
(im)moral power some white peoples historic wrongdoings confer upon them. Fortunately not all black people are that insecure.

True, a substantial number of mulattoes in the New England states had indeed black fathers and white mothers. There is genetic research to prove this. Not that it matters though…
BTW if the mother was white the mulatto child was usually free since slave status was inherited through the mother.

Rape is a very unsatisfying way to have sex. Also a white man who would ‘mess with’ a slave women was usualy frouned upon in his own house and by the entire white community. Planters were rich men and a man who wanted to exploit women had other, socially more accepted ways to do so. In addition many slave women had an interest in bearing mulatto children thus obtaining a better status for their children.

This is not to say that rape didn’t exist at all (inlcuding black women being raped by black men and indian women being raped by fugitive black slaves btw.) However propaganda narratives like the one of mulattoes being mainly the result of rape were simply created in order to bind mulattoes loyalities mainy to blacks and to make white men look evil since the existence of racism (real and imagined) is essential to the survival of African-Americans as a group in their existing form.

It’s only natural for a father to care for his child. A lot of white fathers cared for their mulatto children despite the odds. Wilberforce University for example was largely financed by white planters in order to provide their mulatto children with an education and to allow them to get away from the South.

as far as white women and black men, these sorts of unions were difficult at best, because of these same laws (in some areas) and even more stringent social norms (even more stringent on white women)…that is reality and fact…check out the research from respected historians (white and black)….this is not to say they didn’t happen at all…but much rarer…

While I did see you and a few of your mods making an effort to rein in the anti-black sentiment on that site, I must say I still found it incredibly disturbing.

Good luck

“Why this need on the part of some to bash white men at every opportunity? Why these racist generalizations about white men at the time? What about the many white plantation owners who cared for their mulatto children and who provided them with an education, especially in Louisiana, more than everywhere else in North America? What about the black slave women who were raped by black men during this time which was at least just as likely”

De Nile is not just a river in Egypt!!!

“cared for their ‘mulatto’ children” Care is not a word that can be used in this situation.

That mail order bride analogy is false at best. You need to do some research and come to grips with American history and the basis for its wealth.