Comments on: Keanu Reeves’ futuristic appeal http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/02/28/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/ Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:01:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: justin http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/02/28/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5268 justin Wed, 08 Mar 2006 14:27:34 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/index.php/archives/2006/02/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5268 Oh-khay. I was referring to the Riddick movies, Pitch black, Dark Fury, and Chronicles of Riddick. It’s debateable if that is a trilogy, one’s a cartoon and the other is a spin off. Like OB 1 I don’t think of DV and Anakin as one person. Vader has some autonomy in popular culture, Anakin doesn’t. James Earl Jones is the true Darth Vader . . . . . and Vin Diesel is the Iron Giant. (yes, my argument is so weak) If I were to dissect both series chapter one would be ‘images of the black man in sado-masochism‘. Riddick is the last descendent of the warrior planet Furia. He is prophesised to save the universe with some kind of zombie army. I don’t think the makers had enough time to provide a Luke. Oh-khay. I was referring to the Riddick movies, Pitch black, Dark Fury, and Chronicles of Riddick. It’s debateable if that is a trilogy, one’s a cartoon and the other is a spin off.
Like OB 1 I don’t think of DV and Anakin as one person. Vader has some autonomy in popular culture, Anakin doesn’t. James Earl Jones is the true Darth Vader . . . . . and Vin Diesel is the Iron Giant. (yes, my argument is so weak)
If I were to dissect both series chapter one would be ‘images of the black man in sado-masochism‘.
Riddick is the last descendent of the warrior planet Furia. He is prophesised to save the universe with some kind of zombie army. I don’t think the makers had enough time to provide a Luke.

]]> By: Lyonside http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/02/28/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5175 Lyonside Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:45:59 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/index.php/archives/2006/02/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5175 >Riddick is like Darth Vader Hunh. I have to think about that one (then who is the redemptor (a la Luke?)) Besides, DV was set up as the genocidal bad guy for at least 2 movies (then as a genocidal ansty pawn for the 3rd). Riddick: bad guy, check. gratuitious bad? Not so much (i.e., he's not stalking innocents around town, they're all bad). And not genocidal. >Judging from the end of that trilogy the character is not even meant to be human and from begining to end he is very much an other. I'm guessing you mean the SW trilogy (the original... the other 3 are so not canon to me :). There may or may not be a sequel to Riddick, in which case I'd have to go back and compare the character arcs. But DV DOES Have an arc. Starting human. Gives up humanity (in multiple ways). Recovers bits of humanity in not wanting to kill his child (but wants to convert the son to his world). Ultimately recovers whole humanity in rejecting evil. Dies anyway. Son is left in shadow w/ hope of light. >Riddick is like Darth Vader

Hunh. I have to think about that one (then who is the redemptor (a la Luke?)) Besides, DV was set up as the genocidal bad guy for at least 2 movies (then as a genocidal ansty pawn for the 3rd). Riddick: bad guy, check. gratuitious bad? Not so much (i.e., he’s not stalking innocents around town, they’re all bad). And not genocidal.

>Judging from the end of that trilogy the character is not even meant to be human and from begining to end he is very much an other.

I’m guessing you mean the SW trilogy (the original… the other 3 are so not canon to me :). There may or may not be a sequel to Riddick, in which case I’d have to go back and compare the character arcs.

But DV DOES Have an arc. Starting human. Gives up humanity (in multiple ways). Recovers bits of humanity in not wanting to kill his child (but wants to convert the son to his world). Ultimately recovers whole humanity in rejecting evil. Dies anyway. Son is left in shadow w/ hope of light.

]]> By: justin http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/02/28/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5098 justin Sat, 04 Mar 2006 03:12:24 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/index.php/archives/2006/02/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5098 Lyonside, forgive me but I mean that in the most offensive way. Riddick is like Darth Vader. Judging from the end of that trilogy the character is not even meant to be human and from begining to end he is very much an other. I also enjoyed the movie but I do not have a lot of confidence in it. Lyonside, forgive me but I mean that in the most offensive way. Riddick is like Darth Vader. Judging from the end of that trilogy the character is not even meant to be human and from begining to end he is very much an other. I also enjoyed the movie but I do not have a lot of confidence in it.

]]> By: Lyonside http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/02/28/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5070 Lyonside Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:25:50 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/index.php/archives/2006/02/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5070 >I think Pitch Black really counts on Diesel being perceived as being mixed How so? Given, I liked the movie way more than I thought I would, and I was estatic that not one but two visible minorities actually SURVIVE a sci-fi film. >perhaps even as an albino black man Hunh? I think in the movie, the character's eyes are implanted/augemented to see in the dark, because his last prison was completely without light. Hence his sensitivity isn't because of albinism. >I think Pitch Black really counts on Diesel being perceived as being mixed

How so? Given, I liked the movie way more than I thought I would, and I was estatic that not one but two visible minorities actually SURVIVE a sci-fi film.

>perhaps even as an albino black man
Hunh? I think in the movie, the character’s eyes are implanted/augemented to see in the dark, because his last prison was completely without light. Hence his sensitivity isn’t because of albinism.

]]> By: justin http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/02/28/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5056 justin Fri, 03 Mar 2006 04:33:54 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/index.php/archives/2006/02/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5056 John, mtevc your both right of course. Setting some perceptions aside, I think Pitch Black really counts on Diesel being perceived as being mixed or perhaps even as an albino black man, while the only movie where Keanu Reeves really trades on being mixed is Little Buddha. If Keanu was forwarding the Wired agenda, well he just wouldn’t be cool any more. John, mtevc your both right of course. Setting some perceptions aside, I think Pitch Black really counts on Diesel being perceived as being mixed or perhaps even as an albino black man, while the only movie where Keanu Reeves really trades on being mixed is Little Buddha.
If Keanu was forwarding the Wired agenda, well he just wouldn’t be cool any more.

]]> By: Dolly http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/02/28/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5053 Dolly Fri, 03 Mar 2006 02:42:51 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/index.php/archives/2006/02/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5053 Futuristic,good looks and subtle charm combined... that's really something. Futuristic,good looks and subtle charm combined… that’s really something.

]]> By: mtevc http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/02/28/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5035 mtevc Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:58:56 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/index.php/archives/2006/02/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5035 John (above) understands...they want someone they see as watered down...or appealing to all audiences...hence not casting a black woman with Will Smith in Switch...read his comments... John (above) understands…they want someone they see as watered down…or appealing to all audiences…hence not casting a black woman with Will Smith in Switch…read his comments…

]]> By: John http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/02/28/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5032 John Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:47:38 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/index.php/archives/2006/02/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5032 I get mtevc's point. Most Hollywood execs think Diesel's (and KR's) "mixed looks" can "pass"- won't scare or turn-off certain audiences. Same old shit- there are "good" ethnic facial features and "bad" ethnic features... I get mtevc’s point.

Most Hollywood execs think Diesel’s (and KR’s) “mixed looks” can “pass”- won’t scare or turn-off certain audiences.
Same old shit- there are “good” ethnic facial features and “bad” ethnic features…

]]> By: justin http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/02/28/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5019 justin Thu, 02 Mar 2006 14:29:54 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/index.php/archives/2006/02/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-5019 Mtevc, what about Vin Diesel? Mtevc, what about Vin Diesel?

]]> By: rand http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2006/02/28/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-4989 rand Thu, 02 Mar 2006 06:07:42 +0000 http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/index.php/archives/2006/02/keanu-reeves-futuristic-appeal/#comment-4989 lol @ the idea of will smith in The Matrix. That would have been horrible. I can see Dep. I can see Kilmer. But Will? Gosh, the viewing public dodged a bullet there. LOL. ----- but yes, the face of globalization? I understand what was meant, but more and more I've been getting tired of people speaking about "globalization" as if the mixing of peoples, complicated arrays of cultural exchange, and trans-continental commerce are something new and amazing. They're not. We need better world history classes taught in this country. lol @ the idea of will smith in The Matrix. That would have been horrible. I can see Dep. I can see Kilmer. But Will? Gosh, the viewing public dodged a bullet there. LOL.

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but yes, the face of globalization? I understand what was meant, but more and more I’ve been getting tired of people speaking about “globalization” as if the mixing of peoples, complicated arrays of cultural exchange, and trans-continental commerce are something new and amazing. They’re not. We need better world history classes taught in this country.

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