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1. Ben wrote:

   Wow. If you were her husband, wouldn’t you be tha hell up outta there, like, yesterday?

   I don’t think this is racism. I’ve never heard “Carribean” considered a race, and certainly not one that is separated from the one that Miss Jones appears likely to identify with. Racism is a convenient word, but this has a lot more to do with national origin than with race. National-origin-ism? I’d call it ethnocentrism, but that is predicated on my (subjective) belief that they are of different ethnicities…

   Posted 13 Jan 2006 at 12:05 pm ¶

2. Lyonside wrote:

   Race isn’t real, but ethnicity I thought was real: usually defined as a combination of national/regional origin, and common language/customs (including religon, food, attitudes, perspectives, etc.)

   That said, I do see her comments as 1) prejudiced, 2) stereotyped, 3) ignorant, and 4) ethnically motivated. In Philly recently, a recent West African immigrant teen was attacked by African-American teens in a tough urban neighborhood. After some intial thought that the kid was attacked because he may have ratted on drug-dealing classmates, the evidence seems to be ethnic prejudice.

   Seems that in some predominantly black communities, the West African immigrants are resented for “getting ahead” of African-Americans, and are seen as taking “all the jobs” and “all the housing.” Sound familiar?

   Ethnic bias is ethnic bias - problem is that the media is so into “race” that it doesn’t usually know what ELSE to call it if the skin tones happen to be similar.

   Posted 13 Jan 2006 at 12:55 pm ¶

3. Kaonashi wrote:

   What the hell is WRONG with this woman? Open mouth, insert foot.

   Maybe her radio station will finally give her the gate when she insults the wrong person/group and they SUE THE CRAP OUT OF THEM.

   Posted 13 Jan 2006 at 1:24 pm ¶

4. justin wrote:

   just a throw away comment;
   ethnicity is to stereotypes what a forest is to trees.

   Posted 13 Jan 2006 at 6:23 pm ¶

5. Keya wrote:

   She needs to be off the air!!!

   Posted 13 Jan 2006 at 10:49 pm ¶

6. Lyonside wrote:

   Justin: >ethnicity is to stereotypes what a forest is to trees.

   I like that one. Can I quote ya?

   Posted 13 Jan 2006 at 11:30 pm ¶

7. Anonymous wrote:

   Remember the “Tsunami Song” mess?!
   Others were suspended or fired while Miss Jones was only forced to apologize.
   You can find clips of Miss Jones calling the survivors “chinks”…
   Miss Jones screaming at Miss Info for not participating…
   Claiming that Miss Info always thought she was better because she’s Asian…
   Jone’s co-host yelling that he was going to start shooting Asians…

   Posted 14 Jan 2006 at 1:15 pm ¶

8. justin wrote:

   You can use it, but don’t credit me.
   Check this out ;
   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10363510
   I e-mailed it to Carmen and Jen last night. I’m not sure if it’s worth a post of its own. New Zealand can be so confusing.

   Posted 14 Jan 2006 at 7:55 pm ¶

9. Philip Arthur Moore wrote:

   I’m currently enrolled in a course on African-Americans in Society and we’ve just finished a week discussing race/ethnicity, the differences between the two words, and the illusion of race in the United States. I think it’s ridiculous when I hear statements like “I can’t be racist, I have Black children” or any other permutation of the statement because I believe there are other motivating factors behind getting with someone of a difference ethnicity.

   Take Black men who go after White women just because they “do things Black women don’t do”, or White men who date Asian women because they “are exotic”, or any of the above dating Black men because of their “big …” I believe that when your basis for dating/marrying/sleeping with someone comes as the result of a physical fetish, then those racist tendencies toward the race you’re sleeping with can still exist. Sleeping with the enemy, if you will. The assumption that an association with another race absolves you of any responsibility for being racist is absolutely ridiculous, and I’m tired of hearing excuses like Jones’.

   Any of you watch The Boondocks? It’s like when Ruckus says so many bad things about Blacks while at the same time being a Black male. You can hate your own race or color. They need to fire that idiot and put future issues that WILL come up to rest.

   Posted 15 Jan 2006 at 12:44 pm ¶

10. Lord Tsunami wrote:

    It’s a travesty that she’s even still on the station after that horrifically-racist Tsunami Song. So, is this any surprise? What do they expect from this woman? Or is this actually what they’re paying her for?

    BTW, I don’t recall them making a “Katrina” song when most of the victims were White and Black…calling them honkies, nigg*rs and welfare dumpster babies? Gotta love that double-standartd then - somehow it’s “different” when the tragedy strikes HOME I guess.

    Posted 15 Jan 2006 at 6:12 pm ¶

11. justin wrote:

    There are plenty of reasons to be cynical about interracial relationships, but you better not be talking about my parents.

    Posted 15 Jan 2006 at 8:10 pm ¶

12. Merq wrote:

    “BTW, I don’t recall them making a “Katrina” song when most of the victims were White and Black…calling them honkies, nigg*rs and welfare dumpster babies?”

    Dude… Maybe it’s just me, but it seems you got a little carried away with that one.

    Anyway, I’m so, so, so happy this didn’t go away completely. I was listening to her that morning, and I couldn’t believe my ears. I tried calling in to confront her, but couldn’t get through.

    Glad to see I wasn’t the only one deeply offended by that.

    And no, her comments weren’t necessarily racist. I agree with the poster that noted America’s love for the word, “racist.” I definitely thought it was an ethnocentric, jingoistic outbreak. But never did I think that her being married to a Haitian was of any relevance.

    Posted 16 Jan 2006 at 6:48 pm ¶

13. Lord Tsunami wrote:

    “Then the next thing I knew, a wave 20 feet high
    Came and washed your whole country away.
    And all at once, you can hear the screaming chinks.

    You can hear God laughing, ‘Swim you bitches swim.’

    “So now you’re screwed. It’s the tsunami,
    You better run and kiss your ass away. Go find your mommy.
    I just saw her float by, a tree went through her head.
    And now your children will be sold. Child slavery.”

    “you feel superior, probably because you’re Asian.” - Miss Jones to Miss Info when she dares to object to this ridiculously racist hate speech
    “I’m gonna start shooting Asians.” - co-host Todd Lynn
    http://www.asianmediawatch.net/missjones/update1.html

    Now, also keep in mind that nearly 300,000 died in the tsunami, compared to ~1000 in Katrina…and THEN tell me who got “carried away?” Typical American apologetic defense for Black offenders and dismissive attitude towards Asian victims…both in these cataclysms and this abhorrently insulting racist skit.

    This racist non-accountable attitude is why Miss Jones is still ON AIR today - because she’s BLACK! And Americans have been programmed to think that only Whites can be racist. Now, THAT’S racism! Cuz, if Miss Jones was WHITE - you think she’d still be spewing her racist hate speech on air today?

    Posted 16 Jan 2006 at 10:15 pm ¶

14. John wrote:

    ^Yeah, she would… plus a 5-year $100 million contract, if her name was Howard Stern.

    Posted 17 Jan 2006 at 1:17 pm ¶

15. Lord Tsunami wrote:

    ^ Actually, even Howard Stern condemned the “Tsunami Song,” believe it or not. And he’s technically Jewish, so also above the “racism” law.

    Posted 17 Jan 2006 at 1:55 pm ¶

16. Renu wrote:

    >>You can hate your own race or color. < <

    yes, it's called internalized racism. and it's not ok, either.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22internalized+racism%22

    PS: J & C, do you allow HTML in the comments?

    Posted 17 Jan 2006 at 2:18 pm ¶

17. JC & CVK wrote:

    Hey Renu, sure as long as it’s not spam!

    Posted 17 Jan 2006 at 2:46 pm ¶

18. Kaonashi wrote:

    Dude, comparing the Tsunami and Katrina is like comparing an apple to an orange. Two very different, terrible events. What, it’s better to talk crap about Katrina because *only* 1000 died? WTF? Some people would even argue that what happened with Katrina was WORSE in a sense because it happened in the so-called “civilized” US and there should have been some plan in place so people wouldn’t be stranded on top of their homes or in sporting arenas, or dying in the streets, or the 300 elderly Vietamese people who were stuck in a church on the second floor with water to their waists who lucked out, had a working phone, and kept calling for help that never came.

    Also a lot of Blacks thought that the Tsunami song was bullshit, uncalled for and racist, and a lot of “Urban” stations had a lot to say about that, as well as that smart-mouth Miss Jones. Just wanted to point that out, because I don’t think you realize that while making your own generalizations.

    Posted 17 Jan 2006 at 11:25 pm ¶

19. the joy princess wrote:

    @Lord Tsunami: Miss Jones is not still on the air simply because she’s black, she’s still on the air because Hot 97 is a hot mess and they like ignorance and controversy. Plenty of people (including people of color) despise that station and actively protest against it on a continuous basis. Folks protested and expressed disgust with the tsunami song and there were a few repercussions in the way of firings and suspensions. However, the station remains problematic as we see with her latest drama. Why don’t you bookmark daveyd.com as he tends to keep people posted on the campaign to hold Hot 97 accountable for its racism!

    @ John: ditto on Howard Stern (wasn’t he lambasted for doing something trifling when Selena died, among other things) , plus a host of other DJs

    Posted 18 Jan 2006 at 10:24 am ¶

20. Footnote wrote:

    Howard Stern is a racist pig, but even he doesn’t stoop to using racist slurs on air. There’s really just no excuse for that. You don’t really have to “go there” to generate controversy. Cuz those are FIGHTING WORDS that END ALL DISCUSSION.

    But keep making excuses and apologizing for Miss Jones - as this is NOT her first infraction, by far. She has a REPEATED history on such racist hate speech. If anyone, SHE should have been the one fired by now. Yet, somehow, she is NOT. Which tells me that Hot 97 actually endorses and supports her racist antics, behind all the phony lip service otherwise.

    Posted 18 Jan 2006 at 10:52 am ¶

21. Hebrew Hip-Hop wrote:

    Hot 97 is owned by Emmis Communications.
    The CEO of Emmis Communications is Jeffrey H. Smulyan.
    Jeffrey H. Smulyan is a…very politically-active pro-Jewish Jew.

    Who has been awarded the Jewish National Fund’s Tree of Life Award

    And as a United States Ambassador, he represented the U.S. in various bilateral meetings, negotiating a landmark agreement between Israel and the PLO.

    And even has reclaimed land in Israel named after him…

    Perhaps not unlike how B.E.T. and MTV are also both owned by…Viacom…owned by another Jew, Sumner Redstone.

    All too often just 2 degrees of separation from commercialized hip-hop to corporate profiteers to Zionist funding…

    Posted 18 Jan 2006 at 11:01 am ¶

22. Devil In Miss Jones wrote:

    “Some people would even argue that what happened with Katrina was WORSE in a sense because it happened in the so-called “civilized” US”

    Right, cuz SE Asia is “uncivilized” and full of “dumb coconuts who probably don’t even have a green card?” Therefore, ~300,000 of them “should” have died.

    It would be different if the tsunami had hit a “civilized” country and 1000 people had died, though. That would have been “WORSE.”

    Wow, talk about your typical racist, elitist, isolated, bubble-boy American…

    Posted 18 Jan 2006 at 11:07 am ¶

23. Kaonashi wrote:

    Way to go putting words in my mouth, sweetie! Show me where I said that “all of Asia was “uncivilized,” called someone a coconut, or where I stated that “300,000 people should have died.” Did the areas where the Tsunami hit have the infrastructure, resources, military forces, planes and other things that would have helped out in the early stages, made the survivors more comfortable, even found people quicker so some of them need not have died? No, they didn’t, but the US did and should have had that available to New Orleans. Furthermore, the Tsunami came out of nowhere with no advance warning, while the situation about the levees was well-known for DECADES and the US basically sat on its ass and did nothing. There should have been some sort of preparation, especially after years of warning about the levees, and it’s not just me that said America dropped the ball; other countries like Germany, the UK and Australia also expressed belief that such a thing could happen in America. Are you going to jump on their nuts as well?

    People died at both places. It’s not a pissing match.

    By the way, I also said “Some people would argue” not “this is what I think.” Furthermore, I donated money and materials to both the Tsunami and Katrina victims, WTF did YOU do? Did you give not caring what group got your money, household items and toiletries as long as someone was helped? Or did you do what some did and earmarked your donations to help certain communities and not others?

    I don’t have a beef with you, dude. I just don’t like someone deliberately twisting my words to fit their own perceptions and calling me a racist to boot. I thought we were talking about how crazy Ms Jones is and how she needs to get her ass off the air and how her station condones her actions, not ripping each other.

    Posted 18 Jan 2006 at 4:03 pm ¶

24. Merq wrote:

    “Typical American apologetic defense for Black offenders and dismissive attitude towards Asian victims…both in these cataclysms and this abhorrently insulting racist skit.”

    Homie, shut the fuck up. I never defended Jones’ bullshit. I simply was a little taken aback by your “nigg*rs and welfare dumpster babies” line. Maybe you were just eager to prove your point, but it definitely left a bad taste in my mouth. Also, maybe I didn’t state my point clearly, ’cause on reading that post again, even I found it surprisingly incoherent.

    Still, whatever the cause, I really wasn’t comfortable with the ease with which you jumped into that racist diatribe (or more importantly, THE EXTENT TO WHICH YOU TOOK IT). The Tsunami Song’s aftermath saw an army of white and Asian people who felt absolutely justified in making racist, inflammatory statements about blacks. So I feel no guilt in keeping an eye out for it this time.

    Posted 18 Jan 2006 at 7:46 pm ¶

25. John wrote:

    Lord Tsunami,
    Your “racism law” is really just a device for political spin.
    What you’re actually saying is that Howard Stern is safe from public criticism because “he’s technically Jewish”… do you hear how funny that sounds?

    Footnote,
    “…even (Stern) doesn’t stoop to using racial slurs”
    You’re wrong. For the first 20 years of his on-air career, Stern usually referred to Asians as ‘chinks’ & ‘chinaman’.
    While all races were fair game, Stern (personally) only used slurs about asians and gays. For example: if Stern mocked a black or latino guy, he would do so without using racial slurs- because that would be ‘racist’. But he freely mocked asians while calling them ‘chinks’.
    In the 90’s, Stern sought mainstream success and morphed his humor as parody. Maybe he changed alittle, too. (But if it matters, I do remember Stern interviewing a teenaged Michelle Kwan. He called her a hot chink, she was actually flattered.)

    Posted 18 Jan 2006 at 8:54 pm ¶

26. BABABOOEY wrote:

    BOTTOM LINE: Howard Stern RULES! BABABOOEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted 18 Jan 2006 at 10:30 pm ¶

27. Confucius wrote:

    Interesting how someone makes a post decrying racism against Asians…yet uses terms like n*ggers, honkies, and welfare dumpster babies to describe races other than their own in the same post! How confusing…

    Posted 19 Jan 2006 at 12:01 am ¶

28. Footnote wrote:

    “You’re wrong. For the first 20 years of his on-air career, Stern usually referred to Asians as ‘chinks’ & ‘chinaman’.

    Maybe he changed alittle, too. (But if it matters, I do remember Stern interviewing a teenaged Michelle Kwan. He called her a hot chink, she was actually flattered.)”

    I stand corrected, then.

    Again, the reasons why he got away with it are:

    1) While other racial slurs are completely off-limits, marginalized Asians get no respect in this country and so are easy targets. “Chink” is thus ok, while “n*gger” is not.
    2) Stern is Jewish - a sacred cow in this country where any criticism of will be unilaterally deflected as “anti-Semitism.”
    3) Self-hating sellout whores like Michelle Kwan only enable such behavior when they doth not protest - but actively encourage it. Unfortunately, there are many, many more of these over-assimilating White-wannabes amongst Asian-Americans than other minorities.

    Posted 19 Jan 2006 at 2:24 pm ¶

29. Kaonashi wrote:

    Don’t know about you guys, but whenever I hear anyone use any sort of racial slur I start to seriously wonder about the person’s intelligence level. It doesn’t matter who’s saying it, either.

    Posted 19 Jan 2006 at 3:12 pm ¶

30. Lord Tsunami wrote:

    “The Tsunami Song’s aftermath saw an army of white and Asian people who felt absolutely justified in making racist, inflammatory statements about blacks.”

    Unapologetically, repeatedly, ON AIR with tens of millions of listeners? Really? Gimme a source…

    Look, if you ain’t a racist repeat-offender byeeotch like Miss Tarsha Nicole Jones, no need to get so defensive. If the shoe fits, wear it. If it don’t, then don’t.

    She most likely represents a minority amongst Blacks - but unfortunately she’s a VERY VOCAL minority granted a VERY POWERFUL BULLY PULPIT. Out of all the possible positive, creative, intelligent candidates out there - is this gutter trash mouth really the best they could find to award that position to? What’s really going on here?

    Posted 19 Jan 2006 at 4:21 pm ¶

31. John wrote:

    “Again, the reasons why he got away with it are… ”

    I agree w/ your 1st reason but…

    Howard Stern has been fired, fined, protested & banned.
    He never made accusations of anti-Semitism.

    Posted 19 Jan 2006 at 10:09 pm ¶

32. mr guy wrote:

    lol I love this.You have people here rightfully complaining about racism against asians, but then come back using their own racial slurs against others groups, or saying the “blacks”, and the “jews” get away with discrimination.And if someone says this is not true, or objects to racial slurs being use, they are “sensitive” or “apologetic to black/jew offenders”.

    Posted 20 Jan 2006 at 10:57 am ¶

33. John wrote:

    Stern’s hot chink…
    PS- It was never my intention to set up Michelle Kwan to get bashed (and certainly not to be called a whore).

    I can’t lie- her response sucked.
    It was during the Blockbuster Awards; there were many celebs there, she was young, maybe she was just in awe… who knows.

    My point in bringing it up was:
    Even though Stern’s views on race & politics have evolved since his mainstream success, he was still capable of this.
    What a cruel/pathetic sight: a grown man looking into the eyes of a 16 yr old girl and calling her a chink to her face.

    Posted 20 Jan 2006 at 2:38 pm ¶

34. jeremy wrote:

    Of course this is racism. TO all of u people who are syaing this isnt racism, what is? Does a man have to be burned at the stake for the act to be considered racist? Do all racists say nigger every other word? of course not. racism is a sickness. it is a hierarchical dichotomy rooted in the division and classification of the human race into sub-categories. it is what this country was founded on. look it up. when a man is called a dumb coconut, he is being racialized and downgraded. his humanity is stripped from him, and is not only being disrespected buy categorized and discriminated against.

    Posted 28 Feb 2006 at 1:04 am ¶

35. Alexandra wrote:

    Ms Jones is ignorant, and should join her friend Star or Buckwild and leave the Airwavess

    Posted 10 May 2006 at 4:50 pm ¶

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