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		<title>By: Y?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why even try to keep joining up with these insular racist bigots, then?

Isn't that like a half-White kid persisting on trying to join the KKK, even after repeated denials?

At some point, perhaps it's better NOT to become a member of such an intolerant group?  Maybe that's a GOOD thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why even try to keep joining up with these insular racist bigots, then?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that like a half-White kid persisting on trying to join the KKK, even after repeated denials?</p>
<p>At some point, perhaps it&#8217;s better NOT to become a member of such an intolerant group?  Maybe that&#8217;s a GOOD thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Farrakhan X</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/12/29/what-does-a-jew-look-like/#comment-3503</link>
		<dc:creator>Farrakhan X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I was actually refering to the earlier articles"
"MLK.ORG is a racist HATE SITE."

So, really you only thought one of the article"s" was bogus, then.

And while such a site is obviously biased, does that automatically discredit EVERYTHING on it?  Or is that just an ignorant lazy man's way to preserve his prefabbed worldview and ego?

A fact is a fact, its source is secondary.

So...are you claiming that the NAACP did NOT have Jewish leadership from its inception in 1909 until 1975?  That the following succession of Jewish leaders is not accurate?
1915-1929 Board Chairman Joel Spingarn
1929-1939 President Joel Spingarn
1939-1966 President Arthur Spingarn
1966-1975 President Kivie Kaplan

Your "proof" being that "MLK.ORG is a racist HATE SITE?"

Also, I found similar revelations about MLK Jr on a very credible mainstream site:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030502.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I was actually refering to the earlier articles&#8221;<br />
&#8220;MLK.ORG is a racist HATE SITE.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, really you only thought one of the article&#8221;s&#8221; was bogus, then.</p>
<p>And while such a site is obviously biased, does that automatically discredit EVERYTHING on it?  Or is that just an ignorant lazy man&#8217;s way to preserve his prefabbed worldview and ego?</p>
<p>A fact is a fact, its source is secondary.</p>
<p>So&#8230;are you claiming that the NAACP did NOT have Jewish leadership from its inception in 1909 until 1975?  That the following succession of Jewish leaders is not accurate?<br />
1915-1929 Board Chairman Joel Spingarn<br />
1929-1939 President Joel Spingarn<br />
1939-1966 President Arthur Spingarn<br />
1966-1975 President Kivie Kaplan</p>
<p>Your &#8220;proof&#8221; being that &#8220;MLK.ORG is a racist HATE SITE?&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, I found similar revelations about MLK Jr on a very credible mainstream site:<br />
<a href="http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030502.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030502.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Y</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/12/29/what-does-a-jew-look-like/#comment-3479</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1975 Hasia Dinner wrote a PhD thesis about the way that "Jewish support for black causes was a way for Jews to broaden their own rights without becoming conspicuous by advocating their group interests."

NAACP, "took shape" at the estate ("Troutbeck") of Joel Spingarn who became its Board Chairman in 1915. He served in this position until 1929 when he became, instead, the president, til 1939. He was succeeded by his brother Arthur (for many years head of the NAACP's Legal Committee) till 1966, when another Jew, Kivie Kaplan, "a millionaire manufacturer of patent leather," [HILLEL/LEVINE, p. 127] took over. "By 1968," note Hillel Levine and Lawrence Harmon, "the perceived paternalistic leadership style of Kaplan and other prominent Jews in the civil rights movement was coming under increasingly sharp attack. Activists called for his resignation; Kaplan refused." [HILLEL/ HARMON, p. 127] Only with Kaplan's death in 1975 did the NAACP -- 64 years after its founding -- have the opportunity to elect its first Black president.

With Jews holding the purse strings to many ostensibly Black organizations, in 1976 Black activist Julian Bond sought the directorship of the NAACP. Although critical of Israel, Bond found it necessary to sign a yearly "Black Americans in Support of Israel (BASIC)" statement "if he was to have any chance of winning the NAACP position, given the powerful influence of Jews within the organization."

"Any support of human rights in general by Jews," says Israel Shahak, "which does not include the support of human rights of non-Jews whose rights are being violated by [Israel] is deceitful ... [Jewish] support of Blacks in the South was motivated only by consideration of Jewish self-interest."

Jacob Billikopf, also Jewish, became chairman of Howard University, a Black college, in 1935. Fisk University also had influential Jewish board members. 

Southern Poverty Law Center
1996 the local Montgomery Advertiser printed an embarrassing expose about the Center
The Advertiser further noted that "One thing remains a constant at the nation's wealthiest civil rights charity, the Montgomery-based Southern Poverty Law Center: All the top-paid, top-level management jobs are held by whites.
In SPLC's 25-year history "no black person has held a top-level management position, and only one black staffer has ever been among the top five paid positions."

"IN A TIME OF UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE TRUTH IS A REVOLUTIONARY ACT." - George Orwell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1975 Hasia Dinner wrote a PhD thesis about the way that &#8220;Jewish support for black causes was a way for Jews to broaden their own rights without becoming conspicuous by advocating their group interests.&#8221;</p>
<p>NAACP, &#8220;took shape&#8221; at the estate (&#8221;Troutbeck&#8221;) of Joel Spingarn who became its Board Chairman in 1915. He served in this position until 1929 when he became, instead, the president, til 1939. He was succeeded by his brother Arthur (for many years head of the NAACP&#8217;s Legal Committee) till 1966, when another Jew, Kivie Kaplan, &#8220;a millionaire manufacturer of patent leather,&#8221; [HILLEL/LEVINE, p. 127] took over. &#8220;By 1968,&#8221; note Hillel Levine and Lawrence Harmon, &#8220;the perceived paternalistic leadership style of Kaplan and other prominent Jews in the civil rights movement was coming under increasingly sharp attack. Activists called for his resignation; Kaplan refused.&#8221; [HILLEL/ HARMON, p. 127] Only with Kaplan&#8217;s death in 1975 did the NAACP &#8212; 64 years after its founding &#8212; have the opportunity to elect its first Black president.</p>
<p>With Jews holding the purse strings to many ostensibly Black organizations, in 1976 Black activist Julian Bond sought the directorship of the NAACP. Although critical of Israel, Bond found it necessary to sign a yearly &#8220;Black Americans in Support of Israel (BASIC)&#8221; statement &#8220;if he was to have any chance of winning the NAACP position, given the powerful influence of Jews within the organization.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Any support of human rights in general by Jews,&#8221; says Israel Shahak, &#8220;which does not include the support of human rights of non-Jews whose rights are being violated by [Israel] is deceitful &#8230; [Jewish] support of Blacks in the South was motivated only by consideration of Jewish self-interest.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jacob Billikopf, also Jewish, became chairman of Howard University, a Black college, in 1935. Fisk University also had influential Jewish board members. </p>
<p>Southern Poverty Law Center<br />
1996 the local Montgomery Advertiser printed an embarrassing expose about the Center<br />
The Advertiser further noted that &#8220;One thing remains a constant at the nation&#8217;s wealthiest civil rights charity, the Montgomery-based Southern Poverty Law Center: All the top-paid, top-level management jobs are held by whites.<br />
In SPLC&#8217;s 25-year history &#8220;no black person has held a top-level management position, and only one black staffer has ever been among the top five paid positions.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;IN A TIME OF UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE TRUTH IS A REVOLUTIONARY ACT.&#8221; - George Orwell</p>
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		<title>By: Lyonside</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/12/29/what-does-a-jew-look-like/#comment-3476</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyonside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YAY! TROLL!

MLK.ORG is a racist HATE SITE.
By definition, everything they write is going to be inaccurate misrepresentation in order to push an agenda.

YOU are a racist TROLL.
By definition, everything you write is going to be inaccurate misrepresentation in order to push an agenda.

Just cause it's on the web doesn't make it true. There are sites dedicated to Bigfoot. And having MET Jen Chau, I sincerely doubt she's going to be championing any of YOUR causes any time soon. Stop miscon-screwing what she wrote... oh wait, that would mean you actually READ what she wrote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAY! TROLL!</p>
<p>MLK.ORG is a racist HATE SITE.<br />
By definition, everything they write is going to be inaccurate misrepresentation in order to push an agenda.</p>
<p>YOU are a racist TROLL.<br />
By definition, everything you write is going to be inaccurate misrepresentation in order to push an agenda.</p>
<p>Just cause it&#8217;s on the web doesn&#8217;t make it true. There are sites dedicated to Bigfoot. And having MET Jen Chau, I sincerely doubt she&#8217;s going to be championing any of YOUR causes any time soon. Stop miscon-screwing what she wrote&#8230; oh wait, that would mean you actually READ what she wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: Farrakhan X</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/12/29/what-does-a-jew-look-like/#comment-3463</link>
		<dc:creator>Farrakhan X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which articles are bogus then?

The one Jen Chau contributed to in The Atlanta Jewish Times Online recounting her racial rejection as a Jew due to her Asian heritage - by the Jewish-American community?  
http://jtonline.us/main.asp?SectionID=46&#038;SubSectionID=105&#038;ArticleID=101
Whose painful experience is also amazingly echoed by poster, dana - another Chinese Jew also rejected due to her Asian heritage here.

Or the article detailing the NAACP's unbroken line of Jewish Presidents since its inception in 1909 until 1975?
http://www.martinlutherking.org/ma-chapter18.html
Well, despite its source, I briefly googled and found confirmation from various other sources and nothing to believe otherwise...

The one mandating 100% complete segregation between Chinese male laborers and Israeli women by a company in Israel has been widely-reported by several news sites?
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,6119,2-10-1462_1462877,00.html

Morris Fishbein's sabotage of Royal Rife &#038; Harry Hoxsey is well-known - and reported by multiple sources.
http://www.rense.com/general19/enemy.htm

Freud was a coke-addled failed psychic whose theories have now largely been debunked.  Old news...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1929636008/104-3863544-5509501?v=glance&#038;n=283155

This story of heartless anti-Asian discrimination in Israel is reported by an Israeli source?
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=291271&#038;sw=deportation+Jaffe

Or this eye-opening story of the brutal beating South African Christian volunteer Chris Brown suffered in Israel while fighting the racial apartheid there?
http://www.sfbayview.com/100604/heroism100604.shtml

So, which is it?  And did I miss any?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which articles are bogus then?</p>
<p>The one Jen Chau contributed to in The Atlanta Jewish Times Online recounting her racial rejection as a Jew due to her Asian heritage - by the Jewish-American community?<br />
<a href="http://jtonline.us/main.asp?SectionID=46&#038;SubSectionID=105&#038;ArticleID=101" rel="nofollow">http://jtonline.us/main.asp?SectionID=46&#038;SubSectionID=105&#038;ArticleID=101</a><br />
Whose painful experience is also amazingly echoed by poster, dana - another Chinese Jew also rejected due to her Asian heritage here.</p>
<p>Or the article detailing the NAACP&#8217;s unbroken line of Jewish Presidents since its inception in 1909 until 1975?<br />
<a href="http://www.martinlutherking.org/ma-chapter18.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.martinlutherking.org/ma-chapter18.html</a><br />
Well, despite its source, I briefly googled and found confirmation from various other sources and nothing to believe otherwise&#8230;</p>
<p>The one mandating 100% complete segregation between Chinese male laborers and Israeli women by a company in Israel has been widely-reported by several news sites?<br />
<a href="http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,6119,2-10-1462_1462877,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,6119,2-10-1462_1462877,00.html</a></p>
<p>Morris Fishbein&#8217;s sabotage of Royal Rife &#038; Harry Hoxsey is well-known - and reported by multiple sources.<br />
<a href="http://www.rense.com/general19/enemy.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.rense.com/general19/enemy.htm</a></p>
<p>Freud was a coke-addled failed psychic whose theories have now largely been debunked.  Old news&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1929636008/104-3863544-5509501?v=glance&#038;n=283155" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1929636008/104-3863544-5509501?v=glance&#038;n=283155</a></p>
<p>This story of heartless anti-Asian discrimination in Israel is reported by an Israeli source?<br />
<a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=291271&#038;sw=deportation+Jaffe" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=291271&#038;sw=deportation+Jaffe</a></p>
<p>Or this eye-opening story of the brutal beating South African Christian volunteer Chris Brown suffered in Israel while fighting the racial apartheid there?<br />
<a href="http://www.sfbayview.com/100604/heroism100604.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfbayview.com/100604/heroism100604.shtml</a></p>
<p>So, which is it?  And did I miss any?</p>
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		<title>By: Lyonside</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyonside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Maybe YOU’RE bogus? 

Oh, there's the voice of maturity.

Look, 1) I was actually refering to the earlier articles. It's not all about you. Oh wait, unless it is and you've just changed your name... you know, again?

2) Reread the following until you understand it. Look up whatever words you need to: [B]"Just because a faith community and/or ethnic group has some ways to go doesn't mean the entire group should be denigrated.

The “Jewish” community is not more or less monolithic than any other… "[/B]

Your articles refer to a supposed policy in ISRAEL. Do Israeli politics speak for all Jewish people? I think not. Just like I hope to God that all actions of the US Government don't speak for me as a citizen. 

Just as I know that the particular actions of Ireland, France, Germany, Bermuda, and whatever nations of West Africa are in my makeup don't speak for me. 

And (since Judaism is really is first and foremost a religion, despite being associated/tied to various ethnicities), the Church of Rome doesn't necessarily speak for me either, despite the fact that I am Roman Catholic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>Maybe YOU’RE bogus? </p>
<p>Oh, there&#8217;s the voice of maturity.</p>
<p>Look, 1) I was actually refering to the earlier articles. It&#8217;s not all about you. Oh wait, unless it is and you&#8217;ve just changed your name&#8230; you know, again?</p>
<p>2) Reread the following until you understand it. Look up whatever words you need to: [B]&#8221;Just because a faith community and/or ethnic group has some ways to go doesn&#8217;t mean the entire group should be denigrated.</p>
<p>The “Jewish” community is not more or less monolithic than any other… &#8220;[/B]</p>
<p>Your articles refer to a supposed policy in ISRAEL. Do Israeli politics speak for all Jewish people? I think not. Just like I hope to God that all actions of the US Government don&#8217;t speak for me as a citizen. </p>
<p>Just as I know that the particular actions of Ireland, France, Germany, Bermuda, and whatever nations of West Africa are in my makeup don&#8217;t speak for me. </p>
<p>And (since Judaism is really is first and foremost a religion, despite being associated/tied to various ethnicities), the Church of Rome doesn&#8217;t necessarily speak for me either, despite the fact that I am Roman Catholic.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewlander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jewlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, these articles are "bogus?"  How so?
http://www.http://www.sfbayview.com/100604/heroism100604.shtml
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,6119,2-10-1462_1462877,00.html
Maybe YOU'RE bogus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, these articles are &#8220;bogus?&#8221;  How so?<br />
<a href="http://www.http://www.sfbayview.com/100604/heroism100604.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.http://www.sfbayview.com/100604/heroism100604.shtml</a><br />
<a href="http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,6119,2-10-1462_1462877,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,6119,2-10-1462_1462877,00.html</a><br />
Maybe YOU&#8217;RE bogus?</p>
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		<title>By: Lyonside</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyonside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 00:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't go by the articles. They're bogus.

Instead please base any ideas on Jen's initial article (the full one) and her subsequent information about congregations that ARE inclusive. The mssage is, work has been done and more work needs to be done.

Just because a faith community and/or ethnic group has some ways to go doesnt' mean the entire group should be denigrated.

The "Jewish" community is not more or less monolithic than any other... despite what the hatemonger(s?) in this thread have claimed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t go by the articles. They&#8217;re bogus.</p>
<p>Instead please base any ideas on Jen&#8217;s initial article (the full one) and her subsequent information about congregations that ARE inclusive. The mssage is, work has been done and more work needs to be done.</p>
<p>Just because a faith community and/or ethnic group has some ways to go doesnt&#8217; mean the entire group should be denigrated.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Jewish&#8221; community is not more or less monolithic than any other&#8230; despite what the hatemonger(s?) in this thread have claimed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewlander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jewlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, based upon these painful "Who's (NOT) Coming to Bar Mitzvah" personal anecdotes and articles revealed here, would it be fair to say that the Jewish community is actually one of the most insular and racist in America?  Even moreso than Middle Class White America?  

And if not, is there then a stereotype-based double-standard in holding each group racially-accountable - which then only further ENABLES Jewish racism?  Aka - "I can't be racist, I'm a JEW!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, based upon these painful &#8220;Who&#8217;s (NOT) Coming to Bar Mitzvah&#8221; personal anecdotes and articles revealed here, would it be fair to say that the Jewish community is actually one of the most insular and racist in America?  Even moreso than Middle Class White America?  </p>
<p>And if not, is there then a stereotype-based double-standard in holding each group racially-accountable - which then only further ENABLES Jewish racism?  Aka - &#8220;I can&#8217;t be racist, I&#8217;m a JEW!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one more thing, just wondering how the rest of conference went.  conclusions... commments of participants... goals set?  ... i'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly?) that jen's initial comments were a starting-off point and not a conclusion for the conference...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one more thing, just wondering how the rest of conference went.  conclusions&#8230; commments of participants&#8230; goals set?  &#8230; i&#8217;m assuming (perhaps incorrectly?) that jen&#8217;s initial comments were a starting-off point and not a conclusion for the conference&#8230;</p>
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