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		<title>By: Arthur J. Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/12/27/being-mixedyouve-got-a-shot/#comment-20050</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur J. Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arthur J. Graham coined the term "subliminal racism" and has established 
http://wwwsubliminalracism.com to deal with the term sources and origins, currency, and downright ignorant and misguided application of "labelling" others "racist."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arthur J. Graham coined the term &#8220;subliminal racism&#8221; and has established<br />
<a href="http://wwwsubliminalracism.com" rel="nofollow">http://wwwsubliminalracism.com</a> to deal with the term sources and origins, currency, and downright ignorant and misguided application of &#8220;labelling&#8221; others &#8220;racist.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Frankie</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/12/27/being-mixedyouve-got-a-shot/#comment-6290</link>
		<dc:creator>Frankie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To MERQ:
"And just out of curiosity, has it become OK to use the words “mulatto” &#38; “mulatta?” Is nobody aware of their meanings, or is this another one of those “taking-back-the-word” things?"

I identify myself as mulatta. I took it back. I feel being called biracial is fine on a general "don't know your race" kinda thing, for instance when people use "latino/a" when you don't know if that person is puerto rican, mexican, columbian, or cuban. or when people use "asian" if they don't know if said person is korean, japanese, chinese, or tawainese. However, just like my asian and latino friends feel that asian and latino is too broad for them, I feel biracial is too broad for me. I like making the distinction between black/white biracial and other sorts of biracial because I feel I'm entitled to my own specific title just as much as anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To MERQ:<br />
&#8220;And just out of curiosity, has it become OK to use the words “mulatto” &amp; “mulatta?” Is nobody aware of their meanings, or is this another one of those “taking-back-the-word” things?&#8221;</p>
<p>I identify myself as mulatta. I took it back. I feel being called biracial is fine on a general &#8220;don&#8217;t know your race&#8221; kinda thing, for instance when people use &#8220;latino/a&#8221; when you don&#8217;t know if that person is puerto rican, mexican, columbian, or cuban. or when people use &#8220;asian&#8221; if they don&#8217;t know if said person is korean, japanese, chinese, or tawainese. However, just like my asian and latino friends feel that asian and latino is too broad for them, I feel biracial is too broad for me. I like making the distinction between black/white biracial and other sorts of biracial because I feel I&#8217;m entitled to my own specific title just as much as anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: N. Baeckert</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/12/27/being-mixedyouve-got-a-shot/#comment-6225</link>
		<dc:creator>N. Baeckert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a black woman who is very dark-skinned, has typically West-African facial features and has always refused to wear weaves. Black american men always discriminated against me on the dating scene. Those black women they claimed to like (for those who did) tended to be those with long hair and more caucasian facial features. I'm currently living on the East Coast and am married to my wonderful white european husband. Funnily I seem to be happier than many of my black girlfriends who are in relationships with black men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a black woman who is very dark-skinned, has typically West-African facial features and has always refused to wear weaves. Black american men always discriminated against me on the dating scene. Those black women they claimed to like (for those who did) tended to be those with long hair and more caucasian facial features. I&#8217;m currently living on the East Coast and am married to my wonderful white european husband. Funnily I seem to be happier than many of my black girlfriends who are in relationships with black men.</p>
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		<title>By: RL_Model</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/12/27/being-mixedyouve-got-a-shot/#comment-3326</link>
		<dc:creator>RL_Model</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Nope. The media tends to only portray Black Americans a certain way. We are individuals who have different viewpoints and the only ones who can’t tolerate a different opinion are the uneducated - but that’s true of all races."

I understand that entertainment execs would rather pigeonhole people into "types" and cater to the lowest common denominator because it's easier. Still, we aren't operating under the studio system anymore. Nobody forces Black people to crank out degrading, misogynistic trash. There are more Black writers, directors, actors, etc. in Hollywood than ever before. Surely, if you accept that Black people deserve the same respect as whites in their media representations, you must hold Black people accountable too for not upholding this standard. 


"However, my friends on the East Coast tell me that it’s different there and that Black men are different there and that they tend to date everyone. I guess what I’m trying to say is that several people with different viewpoints can all be “right” because the experiences are different based on where you live. "


Absolutely, that's what I meant by one's experiences informing one's opinions. Although I do believe there are other factors here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nope. The media tends to only portray Black Americans a certain way. We are individuals who have different viewpoints and the only ones who can’t tolerate a different opinion are the uneducated - but that’s true of all races.&#8221;</p>
<p>I understand that entertainment execs would rather pigeonhole people into &#8220;types&#8221; and cater to the lowest common denominator because it&#8217;s easier. Still, we aren&#8217;t operating under the studio system anymore. Nobody forces Black people to crank out degrading, misogynistic trash. There are more Black writers, directors, actors, etc. in Hollywood than ever before. Surely, if you accept that Black people deserve the same respect as whites in their media representations, you must hold Black people accountable too for not upholding this standard. </p>
<p>&#8220;However, my friends on the East Coast tell me that it’s different there and that Black men are different there and that they tend to date everyone. I guess what I’m trying to say is that several people with different viewpoints can all be “right” because the experiences are different based on where you live. &#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely, that&#8217;s what I meant by one&#8217;s experiences informing one&#8217;s opinions. Although I do believe there are other factors here.</p>
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		<title>By: Regional Racism</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/12/27/being-mixedyouve-got-a-shot/#comment-3317</link>
		<dc:creator>Regional Racism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or try various EU countries like Holland.  Where you will see many tall Aryan men coupled with pitch-dark Black women.  Women who would be treated as subhumans here.

You just don't realize how racist the US is until you travel elsewhere...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or try various EU countries like Holland.  Where you will see many tall Aryan men coupled with pitch-dark Black women.  Women who would be treated as subhumans here.</p>
<p>You just don&#8217;t realize how racist the US is until you travel elsewhere&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: KayStar</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/12/27/being-mixedyouve-got-a-shot/#comment-3306</link>
		<dc:creator>KayStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 03:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Black Americans tend to encourage social/cultural homogeneity. If they want to be regarded as individuals, perhaps they should start acting (and thinking) like it. "

Nope.  The media tends to only portray Black Americans a certain way.  We are individuals who have different viewpoints and the only ones who can't tolerate a different opinion are the uneducated - but that's true of all races.

As far as the Black Men - Mixed Women and it being a sign of Black male insecurity, that can be true.  I think it depends on where you are.  If you're in America, the West Coast seems to have the insecurity thing going.  You can tell because Black men on the street won't even look at or speak to a dark-skinned woman and people in general are very image-concious (this is most pronounce in Los Angeles, but trickles out elsewhere).  This doesn't apply to ALL Black men out here, but it happens enough to notice and comment on.

However, my friends on the East Coast tell me that it's different there and that Black men are different there and that they tend to date everyone.  I guess what I'm trying to say is that several people with different viewpoints can all be "right" because the experiences are different based on where you live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Black Americans tend to encourage social/cultural homogeneity. If they want to be regarded as individuals, perhaps they should start acting (and thinking) like it. &#8221;</p>
<p>Nope.  The media tends to only portray Black Americans a certain way.  We are individuals who have different viewpoints and the only ones who can&#8217;t tolerate a different opinion are the uneducated - but that&#8217;s true of all races.</p>
<p>As far as the Black Men - Mixed Women and it being a sign of Black male insecurity, that can be true.  I think it depends on where you are.  If you&#8217;re in America, the West Coast seems to have the insecurity thing going.  You can tell because Black men on the street won&#8217;t even look at or speak to a dark-skinned woman and people in general are very image-concious (this is most pronounce in Los Angeles, but trickles out elsewhere).  This doesn&#8217;t apply to ALL Black men out here, but it happens enough to notice and comment on.</p>
<p>However, my friends on the East Coast tell me that it&#8217;s different there and that Black men are different there and that they tend to date everyone.  I guess what I&#8217;m trying to say is that several people with different viewpoints can all be &#8220;right&#8221; because the experiences are different based on where you live.</p>
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		<title>By: bernikin skywalker</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/12/27/being-mixedyouve-got-a-shot/#comment-3301</link>
		<dc:creator>bernikin skywalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The color (read: colonial) complex is EVERYWHERE, no matter what culture.  It's so pronounced in some cultures that preach cultural homogeneity (like certain East Asian cultures, for example).  

I interpret McGrudder's portrayal of Jazmine to be perpetuating the whole "tragic mulatto" image.  Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The color (read: colonial) complex is EVERYWHERE, no matter what culture.  It&#8217;s so pronounced in some cultures that preach cultural homogeneity (like certain East Asian cultures, for example).  </p>
<p>I interpret McGrudder&#8217;s portrayal of Jazmine to be perpetuating the whole &#8220;tragic mulatto&#8221; image.  Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyonside</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/12/27/being-mixedyouve-got-a-shot/#comment-3192</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyonside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 06:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I’m comfortable with the people I hang around with now, and that doesn’t include black men.

Once again missing the entire point... *le sigh*

&gt;my point was that I don’t care for the manner in which biracial women are portrayed in the American media, particularly by Blacks. 

Oh puhleeze. Cause ALL blacks must be the ones who have so much influence over the media - wha...? See where those grand generalizations get you into trouble again? I don't like it either, but I don't assume that anyone on MTV speaks for me. Who do you think employs all those rappers and videographers? *hint* the people w/ the money are NOT part of "Black America." Chris Rock has a great routine about the difference between being "rich" and being "wealthy," and the color lines associated w/ both terms.

&gt;Black Americans tend to encourage social/cultural homogeneity. If they want to be regarded as individuals, perhaps they should start acting (and thinking) like it. 

Funny, coming from someone who openly says that they don't socialize w/ black people. Since you don't treat black people as individuals, how would you know what "THEY" do or don't encourage? So again, w/ the generalizations... if you as a mixed person want to be seen as an individual and not a steretype or token, then why in hell don't you try treating other people like that too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>I’m comfortable with the people I hang around with now, and that doesn’t include black men.</p>
<p>Once again missing the entire point&#8230; *le sigh*</p>
<p>>my point was that I don’t care for the manner in which biracial women are portrayed in the American media, particularly by Blacks. </p>
<p>Oh puhleeze. Cause ALL blacks must be the ones who have so much influence over the media - wha&#8230;? See where those grand generalizations get you into trouble again? I don&#8217;t like it either, but I don&#8217;t assume that anyone on MTV speaks for me. Who do you think employs all those rappers and videographers? *hint* the people w/ the money are NOT part of &#8220;Black America.&#8221; Chris Rock has a great routine about the difference between being &#8220;rich&#8221; and being &#8220;wealthy,&#8221; and the color lines associated w/ both terms.</p>
<p>>Black Americans tend to encourage social/cultural homogeneity. If they want to be regarded as individuals, perhaps they should start acting (and thinking) like it. </p>
<p>Funny, coming from someone who openly says that they don&#8217;t socialize w/ black people. Since you don&#8217;t treat black people as individuals, how would you know what &#8220;THEY&#8221; do or don&#8217;t encourage? So again, w/ the generalizations&#8230; if you as a mixed person want to be seen as an individual and not a steretype or token, then why in hell don&#8217;t you try treating other people like that too?</p>
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		<title>By: RL_Model</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/12/27/being-mixedyouve-got-a-shot/#comment-3186</link>
		<dc:creator>RL_Model</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...you might need to hang around a better class of menfolk (or people in general)."

Well, I'm comfortable with the people I hang around with now, and that doesn't include black men. We are hopelessly off-topic, but my point was that I don't care for the manner in which biracial women are portrayed in the American media, particularly by Blacks. 


"I’m not going to sit here and bicker with you on that when I’m fairly certain I’ve seen your self-hating type before. One day, it’ll all become clear, my dear." 


How civil of you. Nor do I wish to discuss anything with somone who hides behind callow name-calling and assorted insults.


"I think the problem many people have (as illustrated by some of these posts) is that they believe in some monolithic “black community.” So if McGruder says it, it must be what all black people (or men) think."

Black Americans tend to encourage social/cultural homogeneity. If they want to be regarded as individuals, perhaps they should start acting (and thinking) like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;you might need to hang around a better class of menfolk (or people in general).&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m comfortable with the people I hang around with now, and that doesn&#8217;t include black men. We are hopelessly off-topic, but my point was that I don&#8217;t care for the manner in which biracial women are portrayed in the American media, particularly by Blacks. </p>
<p>&#8220;I’m not going to sit here and bicker with you on that when I’m fairly certain I’ve seen your self-hating type before. One day, it’ll all become clear, my dear.&#8221; </p>
<p>How civil of you. Nor do I wish to discuss anything with somone who hides behind callow name-calling and assorted insults.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think the problem many people have (as illustrated by some of these posts) is that they believe in some monolithic “black community.” So if McGruder says it, it must be what all black people (or men) think.&#8221;</p>
<p>Black Americans tend to encourage social/cultural homogeneity. If they want to be regarded as individuals, perhaps they should start acting (and thinking) like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Merq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 05:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>meh, whatever you say, Model. I'm not going to sit here and bicker with you on that when I'm fairly certain I've seen your self-hating type before. One day, it'll all become clear, my dear.

Back to the issue at hand,
I think the problem many people have (as illustrated by some of these posts) is that they believe in some monolithic "black community." So if McGruder says it, it must be what all black people (or men) think.

More interesting is the belief that because he's black, his work can't be racist. But that's a whole other discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meh, whatever you say, Model. I&#8217;m not going to sit here and bicker with you on that when I&#8217;m fairly certain I&#8217;ve seen your self-hating type before. One day, it&#8217;ll all become clear, my dear.</p>
<p>Back to the issue at hand,<br />
I think the problem many people have (as illustrated by some of these posts) is that they believe in some monolithic &#8220;black community.&#8221; So if McGruder says it, it must be what all black people (or men) think.</p>
<p>More interesting is the belief that because he&#8217;s black, his work can&#8217;t be racist. But that&#8217;s a whole other discussion.</p>
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