Grandpa gets down
JC
The Boondocks has been on the air with a new TV show for a few weeks now. In tonight’s episode, “Grandaddy” gets a new girlfriend. Her name is Cristal and she’s a white prostitute. It’s soooooo bad it’s good.
JC
The Boondocks has been on the air with a new TV show for a few weeks now. In tonight’s episode, “Grandaddy” gets a new girlfriend. Her name is Cristal and she’s a white prostitute. It’s soooooo bad it’s good.
slc wrote:
Actually, I’m pretty certain that she was light-skinned Black. They called her a “light skinned” lady and then compared her to Mariah Carey.
Posted 21 Nov 2005 at 10:45 am ¶
jb wrote:
I second that. She was supposed to be a light skinned black girl. I guess by comparing her to Mariah Carey she was supposed to be mixed, too. Not the greatest representation but she was funny!! I want to see more of the mixed family that was introduced in the second episode, espiecially the mixed daughter. I don’t read the comic, but does anyone know what she’s like and what she has to say?
Posted 21 Nov 2005 at 2:55 pm ¶
Not a Fan wrote:
^Ah, the spectacularly unfunny Aaron McGruder strikes again. He is trying so hard to controversial and relevant it’s pathetic. Is there any wonder that the only ones who find this sort of thing funny are warped, bitter black people.
Posted 21 Nov 2005 at 3:29 pm ¶
Myra wrote:
I can’t believe anyone would find this show funny. It is horrible and ignorant. The humor is low. The prostitute was called a “ho” repeatedly by the main characters…little children, mind you. Besides looking down on women, the show also treated interracial people horribly. The prostitute was refered to as the “light skinned ho” or the skank Mariah Carey. I am so tired, as a light skinned woman myself, of having light skinned and interracial women portrayed as prostitutes and overly sexualized creatures.
Posted 22 Nov 2005 at 9:11 am ¶
Guy wrote:
Get over yourself Myra. “As a light skinned woman myself.” Please.
Did you actually pay attention to the show? The character who is the voice of reason SAYS that all women aren’t hos to his wannabe gansta brother and, as you said, the women who IS called a ho is a prostitute.
Posted 22 Nov 2005 at 5:11 pm ¶
VJordan wrote:
I’d like to see more Black shows written by Black WOMEN. Seems only Black men can get away with this type of repetitive, juvenile, misogynistic anti-feminist writing.
You know if a White guy had written the same type stuff, he’d be clobbered and protested as a Neandarthal caveman. But, I guess PC racism before sexism….?
Posted 22 Nov 2005 at 5:44 pm ¶
Not a Fan wrote:
It’s no surprise to me. These are the misogynistic fantasies of a black male. The vast majority of black males have absolutely zero respect for women. They also view biracial women, fair-skinned black women or white women as a “prize” to boost their pathetically low self-esteem.
The fact that blacks find this inane program humorous just highlights the dysfunctional state of African American ‘culture’.
Posted 22 Nov 2005 at 8:03 pm ¶
Jade wrote:
The woman was a light-skinned black. Open your ears people.
This show is funny as hell…it’s like a animated chappelles show..but through the eyes of children.
So of you take this show a little too seriously. Granddaddy loves light-skinned women, don’t ask why. Not all black men are like that. Alot are but not all. Granddaddy did respect that ho, he took her out to eat. And bought her all that crap.
I’m black and I do find this show funny, I love the comic too. One show doesn’t say everything about a particular culture.
I think you’re a little too uptight, Not a fan. Black men can love light-skinned people all they want. Just as long as they don’t get made at me for having a snowflake of my own.
Posted 24 Nov 2005 at 12:46 pm ¶
Anonymous wrote:
“The vast majority of black males?”
WOW - that’s racist. Just because something is in the mass media culture, DOESN”T mean it speaks for all people of that culture.
Posted 24 Nov 2005 at 6:32 pm ¶
Not a Fan wrote:
The last two posts would seem to bolster my argument.
Blacks are all too willing to cry racism (as in post #9) rather than confront substantive problems in their own community. “Just because something is in the mass media culture, DOESN”T mean it speaks for all people of that culture.” Yes, actually it does. Media is a reflection of culture. If the cultural output of a people lauds the degradation of women, one may conclude that this is the result of pre-existing conditions within that community that support these values.
As for the previous post, “One show doesn’t say everything about a particular culture.” No, but again, it will reflect the values of its creator and the creator will in turn be influenced by his own cultural experiences.
“Black men can love light-skinned people all they want.” Well, the problem is that they don’t love light-skinned people or biracial people. They use and abuse them for their own purposes.
Posted 25 Nov 2005 at 4:51 pm ¶
Lyonside wrote:
NotAFan,
I didn’t intend to post anonymously before. But I AM BIRACIAL AND 1/2 BLACK. I find your comments incredibly generalized, and not indicative of the black men I actually KNOW in REAL LIFE.
You might try, I dunno, turning off the TV.
Posted 25 Nov 2005 at 8:37 pm ¶
tony wrote:
I agree with NotAFan.
Posted 26 Nov 2005 at 6:40 am ¶
Not a Fan wrote:
I will not question your observations, Lyonside, but I’ll merely say that I stand by everything I wrote and find it to be very accurate. I find your insult about turning off my TV kind of irrelevant to my point given that I didn’t view this program in the first place (I would never subject myself to something so lowbrow and humorless); I was using this show as an example of the degeneration of black culture and the racist, sexist double-standards in which only black Americans are permitted to indulge.
Posted 26 Nov 2005 at 11:27 am ¶
jb wrote:
so NotaFan, you are commenting on something you didn’t even watch? Hmmmm…….How can you really know anything about the show without experiencing it? Are you Black?
Posted 27 Nov 2005 at 12:12 am ¶
MLK wrote:
The fish has been in water so long, it doesn’t notice it.
But, if you imagined you were an alien watching American TV for the first time - might you not notice that Black males given leading roles tend to be older and much more African-looking - while Black females given lead roles tend to be younger and lighter with far more White heritage (or lightening “beauty treatments”)?
Seriously - top Black males right now might include Jamie Foxx, Morgan Freeman, Samuel L. Jackson, etc while top Black females might include a slew of high-yella mulattoes like Halle Berry, Vanessa Williams, Mariah Carey, Beyonce, surgically-enhanced Janet Jackson, etc.
Moreso, while these females get routinely referred to as ho’s and golddiggas, the men (often playas, pimps and proud of it) seem to get a free pass from feminists (of any color).
Now, just because something is status quo/normal does NOT mean it’s unbiased or “fair.” If you all can’t recognize the glaring disparities here - maybe historians will 50 years from now.
Posted 28 Nov 2005 at 12:20 pm ¶
Damn Right wrote:
“Granddaddy did respect that ho, he took her out to eat. And bought her all that crap.”
So, buying a woman means he respects her? Isn’t that the definition of prostitution? Sex as currency for goods?
Wow, sugardaddy bought me a Happy Meal after he did me doggystyle! He must respect me!
Posted 29 Nov 2005 at 3:41 pm ¶
AfroNerd wrote:
Wow, lets see, take one particular show written by a handful of people, and it all of a sudden represents the opinion of a 18 million strong demographic. Aaron Mcgruder is a satirist of strong wit and if you can’t see the ironies in his comic strip or cartoon show then you really shouldn’t be reading or watching his work. He was obviously lampooning the whole ‘light-skinned ho’ and gaudy pimp caracatures so prevalent in our media while simultaneously commenting on the sad fact that there does exist “gold diggers” out there, who are immature and irresponsible possilby could have used a little more guidance in there life then the lessons “a pimp name slick back’ could provide. The boondocks was in no way promoting that particular lifestyle especially when he made the whole affair seem so ridiculous.
Posted 30 Nov 2005 at 12:50 am ¶
Not a Fan wrote:
“Aaron Mcgruder is a satirist of strong wit…” No, he’s yet another insipid hack who caters to his largely black audience by spewing witless trash. The rest of your post has already been addressed.
“So, buying a woman means he respects her? Isn’t that the definition of prostitution? Sex as currency for goods?” Totally agree, although some people will never understand that. And isn’t it ironic that the poster who wrote that couldn’t restrain himself from calling the girl a “ho”?
Posted 30 Nov 2005 at 1:18 pm ¶
Myra wrote:
NOT A FAN has hit it on the head, as well as DAMN RIGHT. AfroNerd, you are mistaken…black folk need to get a grip. We accept such crap from folks in our own community. And, by crap, I mean Boondocks. The network put so much cash behind this show because of the denegrating aspects of the show. I have to agree with the others here…if a white person wrote Boondocks, would you all say the show was lampooning stereotypes??? Come on…it’s cheap humor…and there is no redemption in this all. It has nothing to do with the Chappelle Show, which I do love, by the way. He takes the stereotypes and rips them to shreds…and he also makes fun of racist whites and African-Americans that can’t get out their ruts and boxes…Boondocks, on the other hand, is low, cheap humor…one too many ho’s for me…it doesn’t show the hypocrisy in any of it. It once again plays into the black male sexist status quo–hiding under the guise of urban hip crap. Come on…you are smarter than that. There are so many more things out there in the world…jazz…for one…go turn up some Mingus and get with it. I am tired of this crap on TV, and African-Americans need to demand better of white producers and black writers/cartoonists.
Posted 01 Dec 2005 at 11:39 am ¶
Damn Right Again wrote:
Look, rationalize it all you all want, but what it boils down to is sexist racism within the Black community.
Take out all the alleged “satire,” “lampooning,” etc and you’re still left with the very same “White is right” standard for Black women (but not men) in other Black-male-produced media across the board.
http://www.impawards.com/2004/posters/johnson_family_vacation.jpg
Notice how all the “Black” women starring in this movie are extreeeemely light and pass as “Black” only under the “one drop” rule. Meanwhile, the male protagonists are all darker. And the one high-yella fella plays Vanessa William’s old classmate who gets rejected by her and pimp-slapped by a dark sassy “aunt” figure.
The consistent underlying racial “mixed” messages being conveyed to Black kids here are really disturbing. Especially to young dark girls or light boys who will feel dehumanized and devalued in comparison to their contrasting counterparts..
Posted 06 Dec 2005 at 12:57 pm ¶
i aint afraid 2 speak wrote:
NOT A FAN, MYRA, and whoever else dosnt like this show (i bet who are white) should stop and ask themselves y r u tryin 2 put down a highly realistic show.this is a show 4 BLACKS ONLY so get out and fall off cuz im black and i find it hilarious.so stop tryin to stick up 4 back people when we didnt ask 4 it!!!
Posted 08 Dec 2005 at 3:07 pm ¶
Victoria wrote:
It seems to me the show has served it’s purposed. It’s getting our community to seriously take a look at ourselves as a whole and individually. The things we do and say are reflections of our culture to the outside world. When people see the Boondocks they have to admit that some of the things that we “allegedly” think as a whole are really true. As usual, the point is completely missed about the Boondocks and it’s message. It’s satire and it’s poking fun at African-American issues while raising some very healthy conversation.
The Simpsons has been on for sixteen years or so and I don’t hear any white person talking about how it represents the white trash of American poorly and that’s what’s wrong with this country. If people aren’t willing to call out every negative media image in every race then leave what one person who is actually trying to provoke change through his talent, alone. I don’t hear anyone saying Paris Hilton is a poor representative of Euro-American culture. Why must blacks always be classified as a whole as opposed to being individuals. Not all of us think the same, speak the same or act the same. Yes, there are problems in our community as a whole but we aren’t effing cattle for crying out loud. We all respond differently.
Self-righteous idiots are what’s the real problem with our community and world in general.
Posted 10 Dec 2005 at 6:56 am ¶
Myra wrote:
Not much of a Real intelligent argument there from i aint afraid 2 speak! By the way, I am black…but willing to admit when a show is ignorant, dumb, and debasing our people. Don’t be foolish enough to stick up for something just because it covers itself in this pseudo-chic urban hip shi#. It’s still crap. Sexist, racist, stereotypical.
Posted 10 Dec 2005 at 8:11 am ¶
Myra wrote:
and by the way, it’s not about being self-righteous…it’s about being able to see wrong when wrong is done…we need to speak up and admit when we are creating something that is negative and without merit (boondocks)…i am sure racist whites love the show, as it merely reinforces all the negative images that you say aren’t negative…
Posted 10 Dec 2005 at 2:47 pm ¶
Boondicks wrote:
LMAO - well, it’s obvious that the only guys here who appreciate and defend this show’s Black misogynistic biases and off-the-shelf macho Grammy-winning hip-hop posturing are…young Black males.
It’s amazing how blindly loyal strong Black feminist women stay to their Black neo-massas, keeping their lips so well zipped - racial solidarity before gender equality, I suppose…
Posted 13 Dec 2005 at 8:49 am ¶
marietta wrote:
how did mariah carey get in this conversation topic. mariah carey is not black. she is mixed race multiracial.
Posted 13 Dec 2005 at 2:18 pm ¶
Not a Fan wrote:
“I ain’t afraid 2 speak’s” post is (again) perfectly illustrative of my point. You are hardly able to assemble a coherent sentence, much less defend your point of view without indulging in race-baiting nonsense. I suppose this is typical of the Boondocks’ target audience.
As for Victoria’s argument (most of which seems to have been derived from previous posts): “The Simpsons has been on for sixteen years or so and I don’t hear any white person talking about how it represents the white trash of American poorly and that’s what’s wrong with this country.”
Really? Cultural critics have long derided the content of this and similar programs as eroding the moral values of Americans. If you haven’t heard such talk lately it is probably because this show is essentially irrelevant.
“I don’t hear anyone saying Paris Hilton is a poor representative of Euro-American culture.”
Really? I have.
“Why must blacks always be classified as a whole as opposed to being individuals. Not all of us think the same, speak the same or act the same.”
If black people were so desperately concerned about their public images, and about being seen as individuals, would they gravitate to programs that portray them negatively? I think not.
“i am sure racist whites love the show, as it merely reinforces all the negative images that you say aren’t negative…”
Yes, good point, Myra.
Posted 13 Dec 2005 at 6:38 pm ¶
Anonymous wrote:
WOULD EVERYBODY PLEASE STOP FUSSSING AT EACHOTHER IT’S SUPPOSE TO BE ABOUT WHAT WE THINK ABOUT THE SHOW . NOW LIKE I WAS SAYING THE SHOW IS GOOD AND SO IS THE COMIC STRIP SO STOP HATING AND SHUT UP PEOPLE IS JUST HATING BECAUSE THEY AINT THIMK OF IT FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted 02 Jan 2006 at 2:06 am ¶
mimi wrote:
i love the boondocks…and as a light skinned black female i know light skinned females think they are all that and use their light skin as a way to be attractive. Also, light skinned people always deny their blackness ,so i would make fun of them too. Blacks need to wake up and realize that white people only label us to separate us. And aaron is showing us how a fair complextion can make people feel they are better than dark skinned people. It is clearly a shame. I love my skin..and especially dark skinned blacks. I only hate dark skinned blacks and light skinned blacks who hate being black period…
Posted 13 Jan 2006 at 9:30 pm ¶
elly says wrote:
mimi, how dare you try to say that all biracial women are black. I have one question for you why? What makes being half black or in some cases only part black more special than the rest of whats in us. Its not about denying our black side but its about accknowledging that thats not all we are. Hell no I don’t consider myself black not with being 50% German, 25% either spanish or middle eastern, and only the last 25% black. So let me help you do the percentaging since you sound as though you might have some difficulty doing it yourself. That makes me 75% not black. Check your math skills baby cause I don’t how the hell you’d come up with (Bi)racial = 100% Black
Posted 02 Feb 2006 at 4:06 pm ¶
Anonymous wrote:
“Its not about denying our black side but its about accknowledging that thats not all we are.”
Thanks for being a voice of reason here, Elly. Mimi’s claims are ridiculous
Posted 03 Feb 2006 at 4:20 pm ¶
Myra wrote:
In response to “mimi who is a light-skinned black female defending boondocks”…i am glad that you can relate to the low humor in boondocks…but I can’t….can’t black people ask for better quality in their shows…i am black and i want better…there is a way to show how ridiculous the intraracial prejudices are inside the black community without falling back on stereotypes…mcgruder doesn’t have the mental skills to present the subject in a complex way…sounds as if you have a chip on your shoulder mimi…this isn’t about who is blacker than this one or that…it’s about getting the story right, and being smarter on the subject…once black folks fall back on the same stereotypical notions that whites do, than we fall apart too…yes, we need to say that biracial people exist, and that the racist one drop notion is simply that—a racist one drop notion…we need to understand when we are unfairly treating black folk because they are darker or lighter…but we can’t stand up for mcgruder simply because he’s a “brother,” especially when he’s putting misogynistic and antiquated and racist notions out there…
Posted 11 Feb 2006 at 7:50 am ¶
Tamika wrote:
Wow Elley your taking what Mimi said too personal,lol first of all you are black,white,and middle eastern,I understand it’s good to embrace your mixed race,But I wonder why some people mention their mixed race if you don’t ask them to,hell if you your about to get a parking ticket you can’t tell the officer well my father was this color or that color because that wouldn’t make a difference between u not getting the ticket,and people need to understand it’s not based on what you look like all that makes you a certain race its genetics,a biracial can have more African blood than a person who isn’t mixed only thing a mulatto is of direct mix,and think people of mixed race should be what ever race they feel comfortable being as long long as you don’t hate either side of yor background.
Posted 20 Jun 2006 at 10:14 am ¶