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	<title>Comments on: Dude, where&#8217;s my white privilege?</title>
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		<title>By: Mixed Media Watch - tracking media representations of mixed people</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/08/26/dude-wheres-my-white-privilege/#comment-10716</link>
		<dc:creator>Mixed Media Watch - tracking media representations of mixed people</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apparently he and Sandra Bernhard are on the same &#8220;hipsters like us are beyond race so it&#8217;s ok for us to spew racist garbage because it&#8217;s like, you know, meta and post-modern and stuff&#8221; bandwagon, along with Kill Whitey and Blackface Jesus. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Apparently he and Sandra Bernhard are on the same &#8220;hipsters like us are beyond race so it&#8217;s ok for us to spew racist garbage because it&#8217;s like, you know, meta and post-modern and stuff&#8221; bandwagon, along with Kill Whitey and Blackface Jesus. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Peer Pressure</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/08/26/dude-wheres-my-white-privilege/#comment-6529</link>
		<dc:creator>Peer Pressure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 03:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing.  'White' people have been involved in the making of hip-hop at least since 1986: Sven &#38; MC Miker G did a remix to Madonna's "Holiday".  I'm not saying they do it better.  And yes, I know damned well they aren't Americans.  But I will say that there are some 'whites' who shouldn't be criticized because they like hip-hop culture.  Poor 'whites' are allowed in, as far as I'm concerned.  However, this retarded shit going on, where a bunch of rich idiots get together and decide they want to make a 'mammie' out of a very beautiful subculture such as we have in hip-hop, I do not ever approve of.  They need to just be themselves, their women need to stop being whores just because they are having identity issues with being psuedo-aristocatic stock, and not be racist, while acting civil toward hip-hop and owning up to their relative fears and ignorance of it.  I don't like the motive behind what the hipsters seem to be about, but as long as they are not committing hate crimes I will not bring the 'black' mafia down to their little shindigs and disturb their bullshit gathering.  But, these people are missing out.  Big time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing.  &#8216;White&#8217; people have been involved in the making of hip-hop at least since 1986: Sven &amp; MC Miker G did a remix to Madonna&#8217;s &#8220;Holiday&#8221;.  I&#8217;m not saying they do it better.  And yes, I know damned well they aren&#8217;t Americans.  But I will say that there are some &#8216;whites&#8217; who shouldn&#8217;t be criticized because they like hip-hop culture.  Poor &#8216;whites&#8217; are allowed in, as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  However, this retarded shit going on, where a bunch of rich idiots get together and decide they want to make a &#8216;mammie&#8217; out of a very beautiful subculture such as we have in hip-hop, I do not ever approve of.  They need to just be themselves, their women need to stop being whores just because they are having identity issues with being psuedo-aristocatic stock, and not be racist, while acting civil toward hip-hop and owning up to their relative fears and ignorance of it.  I don&#8217;t like the motive behind what the hipsters seem to be about, but as long as they are not committing hate crimes I will not bring the &#8216;black&#8217; mafia down to their little shindigs and disturb their bullshit gathering.  But, these people are missing out.  Big time.</p>
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		<title>By: Peer Pressure</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/08/26/dude-wheres-my-white-privilege/#comment-6528</link>
		<dc:creator>Peer Pressure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 03:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not racist.  Let these elements enjoy the culture.  It makes no difference.  Non-Phixion &#38; Necro produce excellent music.  I am non-white and I don't hate myself or anything, but I really do think Jay-Z &#38; Nas to a lesser extent have become first-class whores; they are the ones really patronizing the music industry's "plantation owner" with their latest bullshit.  I think quality music is not that stupid Snap Music either or Lil' Wayne.  I hate that shit with a passion.  Today, it seems like the talent in the hip-hop world is shifting to others; 'black' artists are watching it steadily erode, even as their records go platinum or diamond.  I mostly gave up on people like Roc-A-Fella &#38; Murder Inc. &#38; Cash Money etc. because they are not presenting well-meaning material.  24 hours a day, their bullshit videos are in circulation and it annoys me to know end.  But for some reason I like Three-Six Mafia.  And I liked them back before they were anything to bother over.  The 'black' innovators in the game don't seem present today; instead of them, it seems this generation gets whatever's left, like 50 Cent.  I despise him.  Like the 'black' women who get their hair overtreated, the 'black' segment of the hip-hop music industry seems scared of their roots: I will admit that such a statement is a little vague, but I think most people--when they think of Big Daddy Kane &#38; Kool G Rap &#38; Master Ace &#38; Wu-Tang circa 36 Chambers etc.--will know exactly what I'm driving at.  By the way, Kool G Rap is the most gifted hip-hop overall performer/lyricist of all time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not racist.  Let these elements enjoy the culture.  It makes no difference.  Non-Phixion &amp; Necro produce excellent music.  I am non-white and I don&#8217;t hate myself or anything, but I really do think Jay-Z &amp; Nas to a lesser extent have become first-class whores; they are the ones really patronizing the music industry&#8217;s &#8220;plantation owner&#8221; with their latest bullshit.  I think quality music is not that stupid Snap Music either or Lil&#8217; Wayne.  I hate that shit with a passion.  Today, it seems like the talent in the hip-hop world is shifting to others; &#8216;black&#8217; artists are watching it steadily erode, even as their records go platinum or diamond.  I mostly gave up on people like Roc-A-Fella &amp; Murder Inc. &amp; Cash Money etc. because they are not presenting well-meaning material.  24 hours a day, their bullshit videos are in circulation and it annoys me to know end.  But for some reason I like Three-Six Mafia.  And I liked them back before they were anything to bother over.  The &#8216;black&#8217; innovators in the game don&#8217;t seem present today; instead of them, it seems this generation gets whatever&#8217;s left, like 50 Cent.  I despise him.  Like the &#8216;black&#8217; women who get their hair overtreated, the &#8216;black&#8217; segment of the hip-hop music industry seems scared of their roots: I will admit that such a statement is a little vague, but I think most people&#8211;when they think of Big Daddy Kane &amp; Kool G Rap &amp; Master Ace &amp; Wu-Tang circa 36 Chambers etc.&#8211;will know exactly what I&#8217;m driving at.  By the way, Kool G Rap is the most gifted hip-hop overall performer/lyricist of all time.</p>
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		<title>By: Merq</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/08/26/dude-wheres-my-white-privilege/#comment-3197</link>
		<dc:creator>Merq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"i put “authentic” in quotation marks because white hiphop hipsters often have better taste in hiphop than inner-city black kids who are busy debating the merits of commercial types like jay-z and nas. white kids are much more likely to have heard of non-phixion etc. etc. and appreciate it sincerely. "

you know, i was sorta with you RIGHT until that point over there. That's the same White Superiority bullshit people keep trying to spring on us at any given chance.

From Rock-n'-Roll to Hip-Hop, the dominant culture pillages a Black artform, commercializes it, and then a breed of cretins like you develop airs about how much more erudite and sophisticated you are, and thus you are the only ones with a right to act as tastemakers or critics in a genre you're just coming to know.

---i think there’s a lot of respect and this kind of goofing is a self-mockery that says, “we will NEVER be as cool as the descendents of kidnapped africans and we know it!”  ---

let's look at that statement for a second. Isn't it interesting that you, like most of White America, look to Black America for "coolness," while telling us we aren't sophisticated to understand what apparently makes us so cool? It's that age-old "Blacks can dance up a storm and dribble a ball, but don't think of putting them in a classroom" rhetoric.

See, people like you really make me sick. Instead of talking about how "aggressive" these hip-hop clubs are, why don't you just decode it and say, 
"like many other white kids raised by the media, I too am afraid of black men. But their artforms are OMG, so kewl! So I'll just imitate without understanding, and I'll do it among my own kind."

You think I'm wrong? Think about this. How pitiful do you have to be to actually refer to *yourself* as a "hipster?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;i put “authentic” in quotation marks because white hiphop hipsters often have better taste in hiphop than inner-city black kids who are busy debating the merits of commercial types like jay-z and nas. white kids are much more likely to have heard of non-phixion etc. etc. and appreciate it sincerely. &#8221;</p>
<p>you know, i was sorta with you RIGHT until that point over there. That&#8217;s the same White Superiority bullshit people keep trying to spring on us at any given chance.</p>
<p>From Rock-n&#8217;-Roll to Hip-Hop, the dominant culture pillages a Black artform, commercializes it, and then a breed of cretins like you develop airs about how much more erudite and sophisticated you are, and thus you are the only ones with a right to act as tastemakers or critics in a genre you&#8217;re just coming to know.</p>
<p>&#8212;i think there’s a lot of respect and this kind of goofing is a self-mockery that says, “we will NEVER be as cool as the descendents of kidnapped africans and we know it!”  &#8212;</p>
<p>let&#8217;s look at that statement for a second. Isn&#8217;t it interesting that you, like most of White America, look to Black America for &#8220;coolness,&#8221; while telling us we aren&#8217;t sophisticated to understand what apparently makes us so cool? It&#8217;s that age-old &#8220;Blacks can dance up a storm and dribble a ball, but don&#8217;t think of putting them in a classroom&#8221; rhetoric.</p>
<p>See, people like you really make me sick. Instead of talking about how &#8220;aggressive&#8221; these hip-hop clubs are, why don&#8217;t you just decode it and say,<br />
&#8220;like many other white kids raised by the media, I too am afraid of black men. But their artforms are OMG, so kewl! So I&#8217;ll just imitate without understanding, and I&#8217;ll do it among my own kind.&#8221;</p>
<p>You think I&#8217;m wrong? Think about this. How pitiful do you have to be to actually refer to *yourself* as a &#8220;hipster?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Merq</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/08/26/dude-wheres-my-white-privilege/#comment-3153</link>
		<dc:creator>Merq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 04:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the moderators:

I don't know what happened to my post (or my comments, after the bit i quoted). Was it deemed offensive/inflammatory or something? I can't imagine it would.

By the way, great job on the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the moderators:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what happened to my post (or my comments, after the bit i quoted). Was it deemed offensive/inflammatory or something? I can&#8217;t imagine it would.</p>
<p>By the way, great job on the site.</p>
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		<title>By: Merq</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/08/26/dude-wheres-my-white-privilege/#comment-3131</link>
		<dc:creator>Merq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 07:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;i put “authentic” in quotation marks because white hiphop hipsters often have better taste in hiphop than inner-city black kids who are busy debating the merits of commercial types like jay-z and nas. white kids are much more likely to have heard of non-phixion etc. etc. and appreciate it sincerely.&lt;&lt;

You know, man... I was with you up until THAT point. That just smacks of the age-old White Superiority, where people move into other cultures and believe their "refinement" and all-around white superiority qualifies you to be the only worthy critic/tastemaker in said culture.

Just like how every Action/Adventure flick has the white hero traveling to faraway lands, where he absorbs the culture, becomes better at its forms (e.g., martial arts) than the natives, and (of course) ends up with the girl. Such bullshit, my friend. Such bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>i put “authentic” in quotation marks because white hiphop hipsters often have better taste in hiphop than inner-city black kids who are busy debating the merits of commercial types like jay-z and nas. white kids are much more likely to have heard of non-phixion etc. etc. and appreciate it sincerely.<<</p>
<p>You know, man&#8230; I was with you up until THAT point. That just smacks of the age-old White Superiority, where people move into other cultures and believe their &#8220;refinement&#8221; and all-around white superiority qualifies you to be the only worthy critic/tastemaker in said culture.</p>
<p>Just like how every Action/Adventure flick has the white hero traveling to faraway lands, where he absorbs the culture, becomes better at its forms (e.g., martial arts) than the natives, and (of course) ends up with the girl. Such bullshit, my friend. Such bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mpenzi32</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/08/26/dude-wheres-my-white-privilege/#comment-3035</link>
		<dc:creator>Mpenzi32</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are a lot of good points brought up here,(with the exception, of course of "This really shows you that white folks are so damn dumb and phony".That individual clearly missed the point of this whole forum.)  

I'm still undecided about the concept of the party and the true motive behind them, but it makes me uneasy.  The fact they are endorsed by a black lesbian and black/puerto rican seems ironic, to say the least. I'm not sure that makes the whole thing OK.  That's like saying it's OK for music videos to exploit women because the women are participating in them willingly.  People don't always use their heads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are a lot of good points brought up here,(with the exception, of course of &#8220;This really shows you that white folks are so damn dumb and phony&#8221;.That individual clearly missed the point of this whole forum.)  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still undecided about the concept of the party and the true motive behind them, but it makes me uneasy.  The fact they are endorsed by a black lesbian and black/puerto rican seems ironic, to say the least. I&#8217;m not sure that makes the whole thing OK.  That&#8217;s like saying it&#8217;s OK for music videos to exploit women because the women are participating in them willingly.  People don&#8217;t always use their heads.</p>
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		<title>By: Aquarius</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/08/26/dude-wheres-my-white-privilege/#comment-3014</link>
		<dc:creator>Aquarius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Cave Bitch!!! As the saying goes.... People who live in glass houses....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Cave Bitch!!! As the saying goes&#8230;. People who live in glass houses&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: dewfish</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/08/26/dude-wheres-my-white-privilege/#comment-3007</link>
		<dc:creator>dewfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is stupid and blatantly racist. "Its not as bad as it looks". please. Anyone that can look at that and say there's nothing wrong with it is racist. Upper class white people with too much time on their hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is stupid and blatantly racist. &#8220;Its not as bad as it looks&#8221;. please. Anyone that can look at that and say there&#8217;s nothing wrong with it is racist. Upper class white people with too much time on their hands.</p>
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		<title>By: It's offical</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/08/26/dude-wheres-my-white-privilege/#comment-2888</link>
		<dc:creator>It's offical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hip-hop is so over.  Yawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hip-hop is so over.  Yawn.</p>
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