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		<title>By: Chiron</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/05/11/crash-upholds-stereotypes-about-asian-americans/#comment-5395</link>
		<dc:creator>Chiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Leo Says:

February 25th, 2006 at 2:39 am 

I want to say to the filmmaker and writer (who is white and male), that that is the most self-congratulatory and insensitive bullshit piece of propaganda I’ve seen in long time. I wonder how survivors of rape and hate crimes would feel about the idea of their perps having an opportunity to redeem themselves at the expense of their victim’s powerlessness and dependence on them. &lt;/i&gt;

Well said Leo, for pointing out what it really is.  I am glad someone else noticed this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Leo Says:</p>
<p>February 25th, 2006 at 2:39 am </p>
<p>I want to say to the filmmaker and writer (who is white and male), that that is the most self-congratulatory and insensitive bullshit piece of propaganda I’ve seen in long time. I wonder how survivors of rape and hate crimes would feel about the idea of their perps having an opportunity to redeem themselves at the expense of their victim’s powerlessness and dependence on them. </i></p>
<p>Well said Leo, for pointing out what it really is.  I am glad someone else noticed this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/05/11/crash-upholds-stereotypes-about-asian-americans/#comment-5391</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Best Picture 2005, the Academy picked the Asian-stereotyping "Crash" over Ang Lee's "Brokeback Mountain". However, the Academy redeemed itself by giving the Best Director award to the Asian director.

I believe I have just seen "Crash 2".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Best Picture 2005, the Academy picked the Asian-stereotyping &#8220;Crash&#8221; over Ang Lee&#8217;s &#8220;Brokeback Mountain&#8221;. However, the Academy redeemed itself by giving the Best Director award to the Asian director.</p>
<p>I believe I have just seen &#8220;Crash 2&#8243;.</p>
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		<title>By: luckyfatima</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/05/11/crash-upholds-stereotypes-about-asian-americans/#comment-5234</link>
		<dc:creator>luckyfatima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 04:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um yeah, i had the same opinion. see: http://www.muslimmoviereview.blogspot.com

crash. whatevah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um yeah, i had the same opinion. see: <a href="http://www.muslimmoviereview.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.muslimmoviereview.blogspot.com</a></p>
<p>crash. whatevah!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AND...the winner for Best picture goes to.....CRASH!!!!!!!!

it's time to start getting some real asian american's in film dammit!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND&#8230;the winner for Best picture goes to&#8230;..CRASH!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>it&#8217;s time to start getting some real asian american&#8217;s in film dammit!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Helan</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/05/11/crash-upholds-stereotypes-about-asian-americans/#comment-5220</link>
		<dc:creator>Helan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reading AngryAsianMan.com this morning and he had a an update on the Movie crash. He had nothing positive to say about the movie's portrayal of Asians. After doing a search on the web I found you guys. I am infuriated from hearing the reviewer's comments here a lone. This makes me just want to watch the movie even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading AngryAsianMan.com this morning and he had a an update on the Movie crash. He had nothing positive to say about the movie&#8217;s portrayal of Asians. After doing a search on the web I found you guys. I am infuriated from hearing the reviewer&#8217;s comments here a lone. This makes me just want to watch the movie even more.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://www.mixedmediawatch.com/2005/05/11/crash-upholds-stereotypes-about-asian-americans/#comment-4854</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The "breath of fresh air" that I experienced is finding this collective of folks that share a similar experience of disapproval toward what I consider to be opportunistic, anti-Asian racism in this pretentious, trite and exploitative movie.  

As many have stated, the stereotypes of all ethnic groups portrayed were challenged, humanized and reversed--except for the Asian's.  The one-dimensional, negative stereotyping and mean-spirited treatment of Asians were not only reinforced and justified, but also used in many instances as laughing stocks--i.e. how the first and last appearances of Asian characters in the movie are centered around car accidents.

Then there is the calloused and money-hungry Asian woman's irrational and awkward use of profane, derogatory and racist verbiage that at one point serves as cinematic justification for a non-Asian character to make a racist but clever come-back and get the upper hand.  

Not to mention the comically timed and continuous use of the word 'chinaman', by non-Asian characters who are treating the half-dead body of an Asian man (whom they have unknowingly run over) with a kind of droll heartlessness.  That scene was set up to be humorous. 

I could go on and on, but will conclude by bringing up three more issues that I experienced with the film.  

The first one has to do with the use of the one forgettable Asian American character who for about one minute was the rep from the insurance company that tells the claimants that the extensive damage from vandalism and theft to their store will not be covered by the policy due to the negligence of the owner.  Given the context of the movie, it is obvious that the use of an Asian actor for that part was deliberate.  

Next, is the whole human trafficking portrayal.  Here, we have Asians victimizing other Asians (because whites never do that?) and then to top it all off the kidnapped Asian victims are set free by a non-Asian (as if we don't have the means to save our Selves) who incidentally was part of the aforementioned hit-and-run collusion but redeems himself with this good deed.  That, by the way, is a recurring theme in many mainstream American movies--Asians who are victimized by other Asians and then are rescued by "real Americans" who do the bad Asians in.  

My third and last issue is not about anti-Asian racism but involves the white cop who sexually assaults the African American woman in front of her husband.  The cop then redeems himself later in the movie by saving her life.  She also appears to be redeemed by that experience.  I want to say to the filmmaker and writer (who is white and male), that that is the most self-congratulatory and insensitive bullshit piece of propaganda I've seen in long time.  I wonder how survivors of rape and hate crimes would feel about the idea of their perps having an opportunity to redeem themselves at the expense of their victim's powerlessness and dependence on them.  

The representation that this movie rides on as some kind of important, courageous and innovative commentary on the subject of "race" in America is in my opinion, a white-male, middleclass fantasy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;breath of fresh air&#8221; that I experienced is finding this collective of folks that share a similar experience of disapproval toward what I consider to be opportunistic, anti-Asian racism in this pretentious, trite and exploitative movie.  </p>
<p>As many have stated, the stereotypes of all ethnic groups portrayed were challenged, humanized and reversed&#8211;except for the Asian&#8217;s.  The one-dimensional, negative stereotyping and mean-spirited treatment of Asians were not only reinforced and justified, but also used in many instances as laughing stocks&#8211;i.e. how the first and last appearances of Asian characters in the movie are centered around car accidents.</p>
<p>Then there is the calloused and money-hungry Asian woman&#8217;s irrational and awkward use of profane, derogatory and racist verbiage that at one point serves as cinematic justification for a non-Asian character to make a racist but clever come-back and get the upper hand.  </p>
<p>Not to mention the comically timed and continuous use of the word &#8216;chinaman&#8217;, by non-Asian characters who are treating the half-dead body of an Asian man (whom they have unknowingly run over) with a kind of droll heartlessness.  That scene was set up to be humorous. </p>
<p>I could go on and on, but will conclude by bringing up three more issues that I experienced with the film.  </p>
<p>The first one has to do with the use of the one forgettable Asian American character who for about one minute was the rep from the insurance company that tells the claimants that the extensive damage from vandalism and theft to their store will not be covered by the policy due to the negligence of the owner.  Given the context of the movie, it is obvious that the use of an Asian actor for that part was deliberate.  </p>
<p>Next, is the whole human trafficking portrayal.  Here, we have Asians victimizing other Asians (because whites never do that?) and then to top it all off the kidnapped Asian victims are set free by a non-Asian (as if we don&#8217;t have the means to save our Selves) who incidentally was part of the aforementioned hit-and-run collusion but redeems himself with this good deed.  That, by the way, is a recurring theme in many mainstream American movies&#8211;Asians who are victimized by other Asians and then are rescued by &#8220;real Americans&#8221; who do the bad Asians in.  </p>
<p>My third and last issue is not about anti-Asian racism but involves the white cop who sexually assaults the African American woman in front of her husband.  The cop then redeems himself later in the movie by saving her life.  She also appears to be redeemed by that experience.  I want to say to the filmmaker and writer (who is white and male), that that is the most self-congratulatory and insensitive bullshit piece of propaganda I&#8217;ve seen in long time.  I wonder how survivors of rape and hate crimes would feel about the idea of their perps having an opportunity to redeem themselves at the expense of their victim&#8217;s powerlessness and dependence on them.  </p>
<p>The representation that this movie rides on as some kind of important, courageous and innovative commentary on the subject of &#8220;race&#8221; in America is in my opinion, a white-male, middleclass fantasy.</p>
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		<title>By: achel</title>
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		<dc:creator>achel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the purpose of the film crash was to reexamine the fear that everyone in our society is shrouded in.  It explores the prejudice that traps us and the xenophobia that has all members of this world gripped, so that no one trust anything or anyone apart from themselves.  I am sorry to hear that many people seem to feel that some ethnic groups were mis-represented in this film.  For me, this film was an uncomfortable yet necessary breath of fresh air,  exploring how governments cramm individuals together yet fail to acknowledge that we are scared on the streets that we have to call our homes.  It touches on the need for protection, for faith, for belief in others, and challenges its audience to rise above the stereotypes of ourselves and others.The film also questions the happy trigger culture who carry guns, because they feel oppressed bythe society they live in, that no one will listen that only actions can free them.  I found this film to be beautifully crafted and i feel upset that not more people share this view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the purpose of the film crash was to reexamine the fear that everyone in our society is shrouded in.  It explores the prejudice that traps us and the xenophobia that has all members of this world gripped, so that no one trust anything or anyone apart from themselves.  I am sorry to hear that many people seem to feel that some ethnic groups were mis-represented in this film.  For me, this film was an uncomfortable yet necessary breath of fresh air,  exploring how governments cramm individuals together yet fail to acknowledge that we are scared on the streets that we have to call our homes.  It touches on the need for protection, for faith, for belief in others, and challenges its audience to rise above the stereotypes of ourselves and others.The film also questions the happy trigger culture who carry guns, because they feel oppressed bythe society they live in, that no one will listen that only actions can free them.  I found this film to be beautifully crafted and i feel upset that not more people share this view.</p>
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		<title>By: Merq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 06:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>--Well, I have only one more thing to add. “Chinaman” is actually a very condescending term. Imagine a non-black character in the movie repeatedly referred to a black person as a “Nigger.” --

While I definitely agree that "Chinaman" is a very derogatory term, I resent your attempts to rewrite history here-- recent history, at that. Look at any mob movie, or damn-near any non-KILL BILL Tarantino flick, and you'll hear black characters referred to as just that... "Niggers."

Sure, I wince whenever I hear it, but I understand that sadly enough, people really do say refer to us in such a way, and if you're going to attempt a realistic depiction of people's ugliness, then you can't (or shouldn't) pull punches.

Instead of trying to turn this into a black/Asian issue, you should probably be more concerned at the manner in which Asians are handled in the movie. Contrary to what many earlier posters said, I don't think the filmmakers maliciously tried to keep the Asian characters in their "evil" states. Rather, I think they simply "forgot" or didn't *bother* to develop the Asian characters' storylines because they deemed anti-Asian racism to be less of an "appealing" hot-button issue.

That, my friend, is actually more frightening than good, old-fashioned malice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211;Well, I have only one more thing to add. “Chinaman” is actually a very condescending term. Imagine a non-black character in the movie repeatedly referred to a black person as a “Nigger.” &#8211;</p>
<p>While I definitely agree that &#8220;Chinaman&#8221; is a very derogatory term, I resent your attempts to rewrite history here&#8211; recent history, at that. Look at any mob movie, or damn-near any non-KILL BILL Tarantino flick, and you&#8217;ll hear black characters referred to as just that&#8230; &#8220;Niggers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, I wince whenever I hear it, but I understand that sadly enough, people really do say refer to us in such a way, and if you&#8217;re going to attempt a realistic depiction of people&#8217;s ugliness, then you can&#8217;t (or shouldn&#8217;t) pull punches.</p>
<p>Instead of trying to turn this into a black/Asian issue, you should probably be more concerned at the manner in which Asians are handled in the movie. Contrary to what many earlier posters said, I don&#8217;t think the filmmakers maliciously tried to keep the Asian characters in their &#8220;evil&#8221; states. Rather, I think they simply &#8220;forgot&#8221; or didn&#8217;t *bother* to develop the Asian characters&#8217; storylines because they deemed anti-Asian racism to be less of an &#8220;appealing&#8221; hot-button issue.</p>
<p>That, my friend, is actually more frightening than good, old-fashioned malice</p>
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		<title>By: Andre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 07:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm coming really late in the game, considering I just saw the movie with my Korean mother a couple of hours ago.

Without having read any of these previous comments until now (I am visiting my parents from Los Angeles) I scoured the internet for anyone who noticed this weird Asian sterotype in Haggis' Movie "Crash". THANK GOD I FOUND YOU GUYS. I was a little perplexed at how Asians were portrayed in the movie. The portrayal of Blacks, Whites and Persians are seen as complex individuals who are motivated by fortunate/unfortunate circumstances, and assumptions about them are twisted throughout the movie. Mexicans are seen as nothing but good in the movie, and Asians are seen as nothing but bad. I can't figure out what Haggis is saying about the ethnic groups in Los Angeles. That all black people are good, even if they do bad things? All white people are inherently racist? That really Mexicans are just loyal people? The majority of Asians do not go to Med or Law school or start an honest business but rather the Asian slave trade? Why is it alright to pick on Asians? because we don't always steal, murder or harbor any threat when people pass us on the street. I sometimes get the feeling that other ethnic groups say to themselves "I shouldn't be afraid of blacks", "Latino's will never steal from me", "I shouldn't always trust white people", "I shouldn't feel uneasy about getting on a plane with a Muslim", "...but Asians, I'm always at ease around them..."

"...they must be a bunch of assholes."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m coming really late in the game, considering I just saw the movie with my Korean mother a couple of hours ago.</p>
<p>Without having read any of these previous comments until now (I am visiting my parents from Los Angeles) I scoured the internet for anyone who noticed this weird Asian sterotype in Haggis&#8217; Movie &#8220;Crash&#8221;. THANK GOD I FOUND YOU GUYS. I was a little perplexed at how Asians were portrayed in the movie. The portrayal of Blacks, Whites and Persians are seen as complex individuals who are motivated by fortunate/unfortunate circumstances, and assumptions about them are twisted throughout the movie. Mexicans are seen as nothing but good in the movie, and Asians are seen as nothing but bad. I can&#8217;t figure out what Haggis is saying about the ethnic groups in Los Angeles. That all black people are good, even if they do bad things? All white people are inherently racist? That really Mexicans are just loyal people? The majority of Asians do not go to Med or Law school or start an honest business but rather the Asian slave trade? Why is it alright to pick on Asians? because we don&#8217;t always steal, murder or harbor any threat when people pass us on the street. I sometimes get the feeling that other ethnic groups say to themselves &#8220;I shouldn&#8217;t be afraid of blacks&#8221;, &#8220;Latino&#8217;s will never steal from me&#8221;, &#8220;I shouldn&#8217;t always trust white people&#8221;, &#8220;I shouldn&#8217;t feel uneasy about getting on a plane with a Muslim&#8221;, &#8220;&#8230;but Asians, I&#8217;m always at ease around them&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;they must be a bunch of assholes.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Naylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Naylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 07:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asian portrayal is not such a big issue. The film plain sucked. Implausible plot and such heavy handed peddling of its themes made me feel like I was being lectured to by a writer rather than feeling for the characters. 

The only only other element I noticed as much as the writer was the music. Both are trying to tell me what's important. No one seemed to me like real people - their dialogue seemed like it all came from the same person just delivered by different actors.

In the end, I feel the writer/director neither has experienced or understands the tensions and fallout of racism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asian portrayal is not such a big issue. The film plain sucked. Implausible plot and such heavy handed peddling of its themes made me feel like I was being lectured to by a writer rather than feeling for the characters. </p>
<p>The only only other element I noticed as much as the writer was the music. Both are trying to tell me what&#8217;s important. No one seemed to me like real people - their dialogue seemed like it all came from the same person just delivered by different actors.</p>
<p>In the end, I feel the writer/director neither has experienced or understands the tensions and fallout of racism.</p>
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