MMW LETTER: To Essence magazine regarding their profile of Mariah Carey
CVK
This is the letter I wrote to Essence magazine, complimenting them on their profile of Mariah Carey. Historically, Essence has not been the most forward-looking in the way they’ve handled mixed race issues or interracial relationships. Therefore, it was refreshing to see a very different take on the topic in their April 2005 issue. In addition to the Mariah Carey profile, there was also an excellent opinion piece on colorism in the black community, and an article written by a black mother of a biracial (black/white) child about the way people react to their differing phenotypes.
Let’s hope that with positive reinforcement, Essence will continue with this more tolerant, more open-minded attitude towards mixed people and interracial couples. The truth is that the black community is becoming ever more diverse, and Essence risks alienating its readers if it doesn’t acknowledge this in its editorial. If you’d like to write to them as well, email letters@essence.com.
In case you were wondering, JC wrote a separate letter to Essence wearing her Executive Director of Swirl hat. So to avoid confusion, only my name appears on this one:
Dear Editor,
I am writing in response to “Free At Last,” Joan Morgan’s profile of Mariah Carey, in your April issue.
My name is Carmen Van Kerckhove and I co-founded Mixed Media Watch, an organization that works to promote more realistic, three-dimensional portrayals of mixed race people, couples, and families in the media.
Considering that Mariah Carey struggled so much with her mixed identity, it would have been easy for Ms. Morgan to dumb down her story and depict her as yet another tragic mulatto. She resisted the urge to be simplistic and instead, delivered a well-balanced, complex look at how race has impacted Carey’s private and public personas. I commend her for that.
Mariah Carey chose early on to self-identify as a mixed race woman but the people around her refused to accept this choice and instead, re-categorized her in whichever way they felt comfortable. This is an experience that many mixed people are familiar with.
I hope that with the publication of more fine articles like this one, people in America will gradually accept the fact that those who choose to self-identify as multiracial are not trying to distance themselves from their blackness. They are simply honoring their family’s heritage in its entirety.
Sincerely,
Carmen Van Kerckhove

Damie wrote:
I have a problem with them referring to her as a black woman, isn’t this pro-hypodescendent.
Posted 21 Mar 2005 at 6:19 am ¶
A. Powell wrote:
I agree with Damie. Mariah Carey should make it clear that she rejects the “black” label. I also don’t see anything ambigious about her European or Caucasian phenotype. Her Italian American former husband was much darker than she is. If Mariah’s father had kept his original name of “Nunez,” she would be called “Latina” and no one would claim to see any “black” in her at all.
Posted 24 Mar 2005 at 6:04 pm ¶
CreoleSista wrote:
I disagree with A. Powell. Mariah Carey, to me, has always looked part black. What is wrong with acknowledging that she’s part black? Mariah has been featured on the cover of Latina magazine and many do not accept her as Latina. And what about pop-singer Christina Milian, who is a brown-skinned Cuban? She is not accepted as a Latina because she looks black. The problem with the mixed race movement is that declaring to be part black or black seems to be a problem which is why so many black people have a problem with the movement. I am a proud part African, Native American, French woman. And I also call myself a black woman.
Posted 26 Apr 2005 at 12:01 am ¶
Sistah By All Means wrote:
Creole Girl, I totally agree with you. The Multiracial movement is questionable at best. I do believe quite many of the mixed -with black multiracials are running hard from their blackness which is why they are so happy that they can finally claim being biracial.
Posted 01 Jun 2005 at 4:01 pm ¶
anonymous wrote:
mariah carey is not black
just because mixed race people claim more than one race does not mean that they should be condemned or ridiculed for it. this is 2005 mixed race people have a right to claim whatever race or races they want. STOP PICKING ON MIXED RACE PEOPLE WHO CLAIM MORE THAN ONE RACE. it seems that people who are mixed race that claim more than one heritage are underrated and people who are mixed race who claim one single race are overrated. it also seems that people who think that mixed race people who claim one race are better than mixed race people who claim more than one race no they are not. and for those of you who think mixed race people who claim one race are ashamed of their black heritage and trying to run away from it you are lying and dont know what you are talking about. who are you people to tell any mixed race person how they should identify themselves you people are nobody to tell mixed race people how they should identify themselves. so dont ever sit up here saying mixed race people are self haters they are not. they are trying to acknowledge all of who they are and i support them. mixed race people are not ashamed of their black heritage or their white heritage or any other non black heritage. i think people who accuse mixed race people of being ashamed of their black heirtage are just jealous. mixed race people dont have to call themselves black only. if other mixed race people who are asian/white hispanic/white or indian/white dont have to call themselves one race than neither do people who are black/white black/asian black/indian or black/hispanic.
Posted 11 Jun 2005 at 6:39 pm ¶
mundoreal wrote:
At some point in her life Mariah looked darker.Now she’s lighter than she has ever been,it’’s obviously she indentifies herself more with the whites than with the blacks.If that’s her choice than so let it be.Also she’s lighter than Alicia Keys or Halle Berry.
Posted 18 Jun 2005 at 12:56 am ¶
Skygrl wrote:
I’m a biracial young woman. I’m 21 years old. My father is black and my mother is white. My parents raised me in the healthiest way they could. they always told me I was mixed and I always knew exactly who I was because of it. I have always been proud to be who I am. My dad never told me that I was black only. He told me I was mixed because his wife and my mother , who is white, gave me 50% of her genes. She carried for nine months. She is no less apart of me than my father. Everyone gets 50% of their genes from their father and 50% from the mother. I’m for the truth and the truth is that I come from both races. It is not right for people to say we are running from our black side because we say we are mixed. What do they know? They know nothing. And they choose to ignore the truth. To say that I am mixed is to truly be proud of who I am instead of just saying I’m black to please other people. I don’t want to be black and I don’t want to be white either. I am happy to be who God made me to be. I’m proud to be mulatto. If I said that I was white then I would be denying my black side. But to say that because I say I’m mixed I’m denying my black side is ludicrous. Clearly I’m claiming my black side if I say that I’m mixed race. People need to be more logical and quit saying things they know nothing about. By the way all these ideas about mixed race people running away from blackness because they don’t say they are something they are not , comes from old white supremacist ideals. The one drop rule was started by white supremacists long ago and still various blacks and mixed people are still supporting. No black person or mixed person should be supporting such a thing. They ought to be ashamed to continue the lies of white supremacy since they are supposedly against racism themselves.
Sky
Posted 23 Jun 2005 at 6:01 pm ¶
Skygrl wrote:
By the way it’s time mixed people quit listening to the false ideas of the world and start taking pride in themselves.
Posted 23 Jun 2005 at 6:03 pm ¶
Livi wrote:
I’m a ypoung 13 year old girl. i’m mixed just like skygirl here. My dad is African-american and my mom is Italian-american. My dad always told me i’m black most of the time, because the kids at my school and my friends call me the black girl cause i’m the only girl in my grade with black ethnethity. i get confuse alot of the time cause i don’t know if im black or white i know i’m both but people always call me black. i just don’t feel like i belong sometimes cause i get picked on fo my race. My favrotte singer of all time is Mariah Carey. I love Mariah Carey i just think she is the greatest person in the world. She is the best singer in the world. And also she feels the same i do about her mixed race.
Posted 30 Jun 2005 at 9:04 pm ¶
Livi wrote:
Mariah Carey i think looks more white then black but she has black features. But the first time i saw her i thought she was Paula Abdule(i was realy young). I read in some of her bios she would get picked on by people sayin she is not black or she is not white. for christ sake she’s both and alot of people don’t understand that. Like one day me and my friend were watchin the BET awards and he saw mariah perform and he said, why is she on BET she’s not black. And i told him, well she’s half black like me so thats why. And then he said ,she aint black she doesn’t evin look it. Then i said ,well some people are born different some with lighter or darker skin.
Posted 01 Jul 2005 at 1:40 pm ¶
xaries wrote:
I really think that one of the issues that seems to get to opponents of the mixed race identy is the that it is about knowing your own identity not just being satisified with whatever “society” thinks you should be. Letting other people affix a label and put you in a neat box leads to nothing.
When I look in the mirror and in my family, I can recognize myself in all parts of them.
Mariah Carey puts her foot down and stands up for herself and her identity. I have a great deal of respect for her commitment to stay true to herself in that way.
Posted 07 Jul 2005 at 12:20 am ¶
briana wrote:
I’m a 13 year old girl . I have many races in my background and family. I have a cousin thats from El Salvador . She looks black or indian . People ask her if she’s black or an indian . Her mom can pass white as long as she don’t talk . Her father is dark , but he’s a fullblown Salvadoran . If your mixed , your mixed . You can’t do anything about it . You should be proud to be so many things . Mariah Carey’s a real good singer and I love her music but she should be proud to be what color/race she is .At first I thought Christina Milian was black , but she isn’t . Mariah’s one third black . She’s also irish(white), and Venuzulan(latino).So what . She needs to get over it . She is what she is . Peace out.Amor un poco!!!
Posted 04 Aug 2005 at 2:13 pm ¶
shanika wrote:
I’m a 14 year old girl n i understand what mariah carey is goin thought or went though because all she wants is for people to notice that she is black too not jus to notice she is white. the reason y i understand what she or is goin though because i am a black person n people notice me as brazil n black or white n black or ansin n black and my family all ways calles me white because im so much lighter then them n i mean there is noting wrong with bein white. and my family is all ways like u need a tan an all this stuff dat makes me soo mad because i jus want o be taken as im jus black because dat is wut i am. soo i understand her alot.maby u may see were im comin from n u might not. but w;e.
by da way i love mariah carey so much she is my idol in singing i love singing i sing really good but anyways mariah is da best singer ever i wish i could meet her one day!!!
Posted 07 Aug 2005 at 10:57 pm ¶
mary wrote:
i think that mariah should be proud of her race.. baecause i am latina and white.. and i am happy with it.
Posted 09 Aug 2005 at 11:30 pm ¶
rosalie wrote:
mariah carey is more than black. she is a white afro hispanic lady
Posted 20 Aug 2005 at 6:22 pm ¶
anonymous wrote:
mariah carey is more than black. she is half white black hispanic lady.
Posted 30 Aug 2005 at 9:18 pm ¶
Truth wrote:
This conversation is stupid. we are all humans, deal with it.
Posted 15 Sep 2005 at 2:39 am ¶
monkeylumps wrote:
Hmm…we’re all entitled to our beliefs, but I have to contradict (disagree with) some of these statements here. Creole Sista wrote: “Mariah Carey has always looked part black. What’s wrong with acknowledging that she’s part black?” There is more to a person than race or color. Truth said it very well in the last post.
Mariah Carey looking Black? No offense, but in what universe? She most certainly doesn’t. Like myself, she bears no resemblance to most “Black” women. She is mixed, triracial. She has long, naturally silky curls & other features that are not a hallmark of most Black women. She is a mixture of White, Black, and Hispanic. If you had said this about Halle Berry, then I would probably be somewhat in agreement because Halle Berry looks more like a Black/Indian mix with her brown skin, full lips, & wide nose. She is a beautiful lady but she looks Black…not true in Mariah’s case. It is barely evident that Halle has White blood in her. She looks Dominican or Black/Indian.
And the comment about the multiracial movement being “questionable” & people “running away from their blackness” had me pissed off. Well, it is clear that you don’t know what it is to be multiracial. The multiracial movement is beneficial to people like myself who have had our racial identities put into boxes by others for most of our lives. Now we’re finally speaking out about it. It is probably “questionable” to you since you might have had different experiences & therefore are unable to relate. I happen to look white. I was raised in a white environment by my white, blue-eyed mother. I have never fit in with most blacks. Not that I didn’t want to as a young girl, but they wouldn’t accept me. They weren’t looking at me…a witty, bright, friendly person. They were looking at a “white chick”.
I’m into 1980’s heavy-metal. My real name is VERY white-sounding. My eyes are blue, my hair is like silk without ever having had it relaxed or straightened. In reality, people like myself are not running away from anything like you seem to believe. We don’t want to be white. We don’t want to be black or anything otherwise. We simply want to be accepted as mixed people, which is what we are. Calling mixed people “black” certainly does simplify things for outside parties, but what about our personal feelings? There are plenty of mixed people who look black, and some who don’t. I’m one of the latter & I’ve heard “Look at that white girl over there” or “What are you, anyway?” all my life. I’m a person with feelings! I will not identify with one race to put a smile on everyone’s face. My children shouldn’t have to, either.
If certain folks want to call themselves “black”, that’s their right. If certain folks want to identify as white, brown, or whatever, that’s up to them. There is something called free will. I agree with the people here who said that how we identify ourselves is no one’s business but our own. It is a matter of free will & personal entitlement.
Posted 20 Sep 2005 at 6:59 pm ¶
Amyjamie wrote:
I’m mixed too and I think Mariah looks both black and white so people should stop saying that shes just looks white or just look black
Posted 04 Oct 2005 at 1:58 pm ¶
teara wrote:
mariah carey is not monoracial. she is mixed race and that is not true that
four years ago the reason she was put in a psychiatrict hospital was for not identifying with one race, no it was not her half whiteness that caused her breakdown. she was under so much stress and she had a lot of pressure on her at that time and she did not deserve to be put in that no good piece shit place she should have sued the person who wrongly put her there because she is not a crazy manic depressed or psycho danger to herself and others person mariah is a human being she did not deserve that what she got four years ago and i am terribly sorry that that happened to her and that she had to experience that kind of disgraceful garbage. at least she is getting on with her life with the making of her new album. and i like many songs on her new album.
Posted 13 Oct 2005 at 9:41 pm ¶
123456mini wrote:
This post is addressed to everyone but most specifically to monkeylumps. Have you ever visited Africa and noticed the diversity among Africans in terms of their physical appearance? Not all Africans have woolly hair and broad features. There are people in Somalia, Ethopia, Eriteria, and Kenya (to name just a few) who have sharp aqualine noses and soft curly hair. These people are not mixed though some racist anthropologists might try to say other wise in order to shore up their own stereotypical notions about Africans and the world’s peoples in general. Africans (or the black race as you call it) do not have a monopoly on kinky hair and broad features. I attended a private school here in Chicago. 99% of the student population was Jewish. Many of these Jewish students have kinky curly hair. One male Jewish student had a broad, flat nose, kinky hair, and full lips. Amy Irving, Steven Spileberg’s ex-wife, has kinky curly hair. Many Jewish women, especially oriental Jews, have to use a flat iron to straighten their hair. There are Italians with kinky hair. Have you ever watched Spike Lee’s film “Do The Right Thing.” I can’t remeber the actor’s name or his character’s name in the film, but there is an Italian actor who plays the oldest son of the pizza owner…look at his hair. Its kinky!! Just last night I was watching a program involing the Illinois court system. There were a panel of four men… all professionals within the legal community. One of the men was an Italian and his hair was black in color and kinky in texture.
Some one wrote in a previous post that her father was dark but that he was a “full Salvadoran.” She and he seemed to take offense whenever someone mistook her father for black. First of all, there is no Salvadoran race. Salvador is a Central American country which was formerly under Spanish rule until 1821. The indigenous people of Salvador were what European colonists, mistaken called Indians. Then when Spain colonized Salvador they brought with them slaves from Africa. The Spainish, African, and Native people interbreed with each other just as the diverse populations in Brazil, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Venezuela, etc. etc. That is why you father is dark though he might speak spanish and have a latin name. His nationality might be Salvadoran but his “race” is not. Just as there are diverse populations which make up American society, there are diverse populations which make up Salvador, and any other Latin American country you can think of. You should try educating yourself on history and stop confusing nationality with “race” because there is a difference. My nationality is American but that will tell you nothing about my “race.”
Reading this message board and ones similar to it, just reaffirm how uneducated people are about “race” and where they come from. As far as I am concerned there is only one race, the human race. No single group or “race” as some of you call it, hold a monopoly on hair texture, facial features etc… Look at the people around you. There are some white people with kinky hair (Jews, Italians, Greeks…). There are some Asians with broad noses and full lips (but they will cut you with a knife if you refer to them as black.) There are some Africans with sharp slender noses, thin lips, and soft curly hair (Ethiopians, Kenyas, Eritrians, Somalians…). The Sand people of South Africa, a native African tribe which anthropoligists have labled the oldest people on earth, have small, almond shaped, what some might call Asiatic eyes. There skin is an orangish-brown hue. These people are not mixed as evident by their language which lingists have said is the oldest langage and most complex language of all the languages on earth. People need to stop living in stereotypes and educate themselves on this notion about “race.” You might just be surprised on who is “black” and who is not.
By the way, in case some of you try to counter back that I don’t “understand” the bi-racial agenda because of my ethnic background…My mother is African Amercian, she has long jet black kinky/wavy hair, her nose is slender, and her lips are full. My father’s family if from Puerto Rico. He has pale skin and “silky” curly brown hair. He looks on the order of Jennifer Lopez, only lighter. Because he does not speak with a latin accent ( he grew up in the U.S.) and his last name is not identifably hispanic (my father last’s name is actually Gutamalan and is very rare) many people assume that he is Jewish. We always laugh at this. His paternal grandmother who was born and raised in Puerto Rico, was the color of mahogony, her hair was short and kinky in texture, and her lips were full.
Also I thought it curious that people have suggested that Halle Berry is more “black” than Maraiah Carey because Halle Berry looks like a “Dominican.” Again read the history of the people in the Dominican Republic. These are a “racially mixed” people. But my real point is this, if all bi-racial people are suppose to be a unique and distinct group in comparison with other “full/pure racial” groups then what does it matter how Halle Berry or Maricah Carey looks. They both are born to a white mother and black father…so why do some of you bi-racial people distinguish between them?? You say that the bi-racial agenda promotes inclusion but it appears from some of the mesages posted that it really promoted exclusion because why should it matter if Halle Berry looks “more black” than Mariah Carey and why should it matter what your racial background is? Most African Americans (in fact all people) are “bi-racial,” it comes with the territory of being an American.
Posted 15 Oct 2005 at 12:28 pm ¶
You must learn wrote:
Tis, tis, tis. Ignorance is not cute. So many of you people are misinformed about race and nationality. Your race is based on either, black, white, asian, indian according to most scientific studies. Since when is Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican, Brazillian, Panamanian a race? Those are all nationalities. Is American a race? Just because I carry the surname of a Spanish ancestor on my dads side of the family doesn’t make me spanish, no more than a french last name of my mom’s side make me French. I am a black woman with a spanish last name. I am a black woman firstly that happens to have to have a spanish last name. Big deal, and I hope that all of you other so called Puerto Ricans, Cubans etc. read this if you are obviously of African descent (i.e. beautiful curly hair, full lips, with beautiful full features to go along with your beautiful light to black as midnight skin) embrace your african ancestry, wear it proudly. Denial is an ugly thing. And who cares what Mariah Carey is or isn’t, if she doesn’t want to embrace her blackness so be it. And for those who say that who cares what race you are. It matters, and will always matter in this society. Thats all people see first is your color, your features etc., and it will never change. So why not just accept who your are? Get over it so called black hispanics, yes culturally you are different than black americans from a cultural perspective, but there is still the motherland connection back to Africa.
Posted 17 Oct 2005 at 7:42 pm ¶
lysette wrote:
mimi (mariah) is a light honey brown white tan woman. why are mixed race people labelled as confused or trying to deny their black blood when they identify as mixed but if mixed race people identify as only black then they are considered healthy human beings. there is nothing wrong with being mixed race and saying you are more than black like indian asian white and hispanic. there is nothing wrong with it no there is not. why do people always look at the one sided problem to mixed race peoples identity status (or whatever you call it) and say they are denying their black blood. just because you are mixed and you say “i am black and white” “i am black and indian” “i am black and asian” or “i am black and hispanic” does not mean you are in denial no it does not. there is nothing wrong with mariah not saying she is only black regular plain black all bit itself never at least seldom does she ever say she is hispanic or white by itself. like tiger woods that is f-cked up how people condemn him just because he does not say he is only plain old black. he does not have to say he is black he is not wrong for it and how mariah identifies herself she is not wrong ofr it either. you must understand mariah and tiger, they are not halle berry or lenny kravitz or lisa bonet or jasmine guy all of whom are mixed but considered themselves black because they think they have to. so stop judging and hating on mariah and tiger for say they are mixed. you cant make somebody say they are black only or non black only. people will always mix, you cant unmix people.
Posted 20 Oct 2005 at 10:36 pm ¶
elena wrote:
mariah carey isnt black no she is not. i am tired of every article on her saying she is black. no she is not. she does not go around bragging about being part black. she has always said she was mixed race because she really is mixed race. i think every article that calls her black is lying. for the millionth time mariah carey is not black. no she is not. people calling her black are just passing her off as black in which she is not.
Posted 24 Oct 2005 at 2:01 pm ¶
petra wrote:
mariah carey is no black woman not because she does not like it but because she is not regular plain black.
Posted 24 Oct 2005 at 4:04 pm ¶
tara wrote:
mariah carey is hispanic because of her half hispanic. even though she does not wear her patenal grandpas name. she is also white from her mother.
Posted 24 Oct 2005 at 4:54 pm ¶
Shinise wrote:
Mariah Carey is half black and half white.Her mom is white and dad is black
Posted 27 Oct 2005 at 4:24 pm ¶
123456mini wrote:
why do you people care so much. Who cares if Mariah carey is black or white or mixed? who really cares? You people act like you own her. You all sound very childish. The only real color that anyone care about is green, as in green cash money.
Posted 29 Oct 2005 at 4:15 pm ¶
Truth wrote:
Mariah isn’t triracial. Her dad was a Venezuelan of African descent. Her mom is white and her dad is black.
Posted 29 Oct 2005 at 7:03 pm ¶
123456mini wrote:
Thanks Truth. I’m glad someone finally recognizes that. Many people confuse nationality with race, even Mariah Carey seems a bit confused. Venezuela is a county that was once inhabited by native people mistaken called “Indians.” Spain then colomized it, brought slaves from Africa, some of the people interbreed with each other, but if you look at a picture of Mariah Carey’s father, he is definetly of African descent. Though she may have fair skin and straight hair, she has a morphology exactly like her father. People need to get over this “Venezuelan race” mantra. Venezuela is NOT A RACE. IT IS A COUNTRY. THERE IS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RACE AND NATIONALITY. Also, for some interesting info of the people who make up India, people should google the word “dalits” or go to the web cite http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/india.html There is some interestong articles and pictures on the African presence in India and the discrimination the dalits face from lighter skinned Indians.
Posted 30 Oct 2005 at 12:28 pm ¶
why wrote:
Who the hell cares?
Posted 31 Oct 2005 at 11:11 am ¶
ChinkyEyes26 wrote:
if any of you are smart it all started back in biblical times…….noah’s ark, if you read you bible it was every race on that boat. we are all mixed , there is no purte race or nationality whatever you want to call it. some people genetics are stronger tahn others. just because a person doesn’t look like what they are doesn’t mean they not. it reminds me of the stupid statements people make when they have a baby, like statements like “that baby isn’t mine because he’s dark”, or this baby eyes are blue and mine are brown. hello! its called “dominant gene” whatever gene is the dominant thats what your makeup will be. we all are gods people , don’t sweat this race stuff. it only cause more problems. what you should worry about is staying healthy, ways to improve the environment etc etc.
Posted 31 Oct 2005 at 2:58 pm ¶
dianna wrote:
okay. mariah carey is some black how’s that? does that amke everyone happy.
Posted 31 Oct 2005 at 4:49 pm ¶
coretta wrote:
why is it so important to people that mariah carey is part black. it should never be an issue about peoples race.
Posted 31 Oct 2005 at 4:53 pm ¶
alexa wrote:
mariah carey is not mulatto. no she is not. because mulatto is only when you are half black and half white. mariah carey is white black and hispanic.
white black and hispanic is not mulatto. mariah carey is white tan and multiracial.
Posted 31 Oct 2005 at 4:55 pm ¶
shannon wrote:
i bet is mariah careys father were white and her mother were black or hispanic or indian or asian. people would not be making a big damn deal about how she identifies. it seems that is you have a white or hispanic or indian or asian father and a black mother people dont give you a hard time about identifying as black only. look at mixed race people like lenny kravitz, tracey ellis ross, cree summer, bob marley, gloria reuben, rae dawn chong, karyn parsons(wow she is very attractive and beautiful), faith evans and salli richardson. nobody tells them to identify as black only and nobody accuses them of being in self hate of their racial identity. not to be mean rude or racist or anything but who says that people with a white or hispanic or indian or asian father and a black mother should have all the fun and not have any racial identity problems. who says that people with one white parent and a hispanic or asian or indian parent should have all the fun with no race problems. because i once read in a book called why are whites afraid of people of color. it said somewhere that whites appear to be more receptive towards asians indians and hispanics. so does that mean that whites have picks, not all whites but many of them perhaps. also i read in another article on mariah carey where someone said they blame her mother for not teaching her to identify as black only and i found that very insulting and out of line. there was nothing wrong with her mother teaching her to identify with being mixed race i applaud her mother for doing so.
Posted 31 Oct 2005 at 5:12 pm ¶
jolisa wrote:
mariah carey is white chocolate and she looks like she could be the next jamie lee curtis.
Posted 31 Oct 2005 at 6:15 pm ¶
123456mini wrote:
faith evans is mixed? wow you could of fooled me. There is so much diversity in my black family (and not because of interacial marriages) that I am always surprised when I discover that people who look on the order of faith evan, tracy ross, leeny kravitz etc say that they are mixed. Of course I know they are because their parents are of different ethnic backgrounds but itheir are african-americans in my family with lighter skin tones and more relaxed hair as opposed to kinky who are just black or perceived as just black by others. It just goes to show that this whole race thing is nothing but an insidiuos myth aimed at dividing people. I guess no one bothered to go to that web cited I referenced in an earlier post about the african presence in India.
Posted 31 Oct 2005 at 6:48 pm ¶
malimali wrote:
what is the defintion of a hispanic? what does a hispanic look like in comparison to other ethnic/racial groups? Mariah’s father looked pretty black to me when I saw his picture. Doesn’t matter that his last name might have been hispanic. There are balck people in America with the last name Washington but are we going to consider those people white because george washington was white?
Posted 31 Oct 2005 at 6:52 pm ¶
Anonymous wrote:
To “Why,”
you should care because it might enlighten you on the issue of “race.”
Posted 01 Nov 2005 at 1:29 pm ¶
monkeylumps wrote:
Yes, I’m aware of the diversity in certain Black families. I come from a mixed family, after all… There is diversity in white families, too. My mom is a blue-eyed blonde. My aunts have dark brown hair & blue eyes. One of my cousins on that side has curly red hair & brown eyes, which is odd, considering she isn’t adopted and no one in the family that we know of looks like this. It is more about how the genetic pool works and it does work in funny ways sometimes.
No one is denying that Black folks can have different phenotypes (i.e., looks). That explains why a so-called “redbone” with green eyes might have a very dark-skinned brother or sister. Hispanic isn’t a race, it is an ethnic group. Sorry, I had to backtrack one of my earlier posts. With all due respect, there are plenty of mixed people who “look black”. Like I said above, Halle Berry has a phenotype that appears to be East Indian mixed with Black. She has brown skin, full lips, & her hair might be soft and wavy, but it isn’t typical European or Asian-textured hair. If she weren’t famous, people looking at her would probably figure that she’s mixed, but they probably wouldn’t believe that one of her parents is of European ancestry. Faith Evans is light-skinned but she has very African features. Lenny Kravitz looks like an average “Black” dude but he’s mixed. My father is a biracial Jamaican who looks white and most of his family looks white as well. I have many Jamaican friends who are part Black/part White, but most of them turned out with a slightly Indian look. I know a woman in her late 80’s whom everyone called “coolie gal” (the term for an East Indian) for most of her life. After she died, it was discovered that her mother was white as the driven snow, from Scotland! She was mixed, but had brown skin & long black curly hair. Not what people typically imagine a mixed person would look like, esp. not one with a White parent.
I don’t know about Mariah being “the next Jamie Lee Curtis” but her phenotype is definitely more European than Black. I know many Black people who talk about having non-mixed light-skinned relatives but the truth is that there had to have been some interracial mixing (whether by marriage or otherwise), in order for these folks to look like this. Perhaps you are unaware of there having been any mixture but most likely you did have some non-Black ancestors. I know of people in Morocco, Somalia, and Eritrea who have light complexions and fine features, but the fact remains is that some of these people are often heavily mixed. Racial purity is a myth. Karyn Parsons (who played Hilary on Fresh Prince of Bel-Air) is indeed a beautiful girl. She has a White mother & Black father!
I didn’t mean to offend anyone in my earlier post. I simply become a bit annoyed when people make assumptions about multiracial people, like how we’re supposedly “in denial” and “running away”. In denial of what? Clearly if a mixed person is “mixed”, then they are a product of BOTH parents’ backgrounds. They are a blend and this should be acknowledged. If you ask me, to acknowledge only one side is to truly be in denial and the only purpose that serves is to create further division, not unity.
Posted 01 Nov 2005 at 5:37 pm ¶
Anonymous wrote:
I don’t think it really matters how any of us chose to identify ourselves. People are going to judge us according to their own biases and stereotypes. In this world you are either white or non-white. Non-white people have been discriminated against by their white counterparts for centuries. And it will continue.
Posted 01 Nov 2005 at 7:47 pm ¶
Creole Sista wrote:
Wow, wow, wow!!!! The ignorance is astounding. There have been mixed race people (ppl) since the beginning of time. Mixed ppl have always been around. Mariah Carey and I’d add Tiger Woods are imortant in the race movement, because they refused to be labeled just “black” when they surfaced in the early 90s. And such a declaration was rare.
Ppl want to talk bad about Mariah & her race but the fact remains that she never denied any of her racial background. She’s never claimed one or the other outright — she has claimed them all.
As for Tiger, he too has fougt being labled just black admist much ridicule from the black community.
I used to work in entertainment and I have friends who still do and the whole racial issue is a big thing. Many “black actors” have one white parent but many are afraid to bring this up because they would be ostracized by the black community.
But this didn’t happen in a vaccum — does anyone remember the onedrop rule in teh United States? Meaning if you had one drop of black blood no matter how white you looked, you had to put “negro” on your birth certificate.
Go to Louisiana, where I’m from, and believe me you wouldn’t be able to pick out the “black people” because they look so white.
I could go on but I willnot. I will close with — PEOPLE PLEASE READ YOUR HISTORY. Oh, and one more thing, many slaves were brougt to Spanish speaking countries during the slave movement to the Americas. So, guess what — Latinos can be “part black!!!!”
Simply put — if race doesn’t matter — especially the black part — then why are so many of you so adamant that Mariah doesn’t look black. What are you afraid of. I say she does look part black — so what?
JUst face it — most of you have a problem with “being black” — like it’s a dirty word or something. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
I’m proud to declare it all and so I do. ANd yes, I am part black. And mixed black people come in all shades — whether or notthey have a white parent. It’s in the genes people. READ YOUR HISTORY!!!!
I’m out!!!
Posted 02 Nov 2005 at 2:17 am ¶
deseray wrote:
mariah carey is a human being she is not black or white or hispanic. she has a an amount of all three nationalities in her but she is an american singer with talent. calling mariah carey black white or hispanic does not
make her 100% of either of them. people only call people a race just to make themselves happy.
Posted 04 Nov 2005 at 4:11 pm ¶
talisha wrote:
as for mariah carey she is a beautiful white afro hispanic singer.
she does not have to have society or the government or anyones approval to self identify and people say she has every right to her black keritage
Posted 04 Nov 2005 at 4:18 pm ¶
noellia wrote:
mariah carey is not a mutt she is a beautiful triracial lady with a great eight octave range voice.
Posted 04 Nov 2005 at 7:22 pm ¶
eve wrote:
why is it that race is an issue if you are half black part black or one third black. the one drop rule is dead at least that’s what i heard somewhere on the net. i also heard that the one drop rule was created by slavemasters to prevent race mixing and to keep the white race pure. why should mixed race people who have black in them be subjected to only the black race but if someone is mixed with white/asian white/hispanic or white/indian they have no racial identity problems do you people see how discriminatory and racist this is. mixed race people should not back down and identify with only one racial group just because that is how others perceives them. it does not make mixed race people any less mixed no it does not. also mixed race people do not need anyones permission to self identify no they do not. just because mixed race do not say they are black only does not mean that they should be ashamed of themselves no they should not. mixed race people not saying they are black only should be ashamed of themselves MY BUTT. ALL OF YOU PEOPLE STOP THIS MESS. STOP CONDEMNING MIXED RACE PEOPLE FOR NOT CALLING THEMSELVES BLACK ONLY. THIS IS NOT SLAVERY DAYS ANYMORE SLAVERY DAYS ARE OVER. THIS IS NOT THE 1800′S OR 1900′S, THIS IS LATE 2005 ALMOST 2006. DO YOU PEOPLE REALIZE THAT IN LESS THAN HALF A CENTURY FROM NOW AT LEAST MIXED RACE PEOPLE WILL BE THE NEW MAJORITY. AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT I HEARD.
Posted 04 Nov 2005 at 7:36 pm ¶
JILL wrote:
I BET IF MARIAH CAREY WERE DARK LIKE MELLOW MAN ACE-THE MIENTIROSA MAN PEOPLE WOULD NOT THINK SHE WAS MIXED. AS FOR MELLOW MAN ACE I AM SURPRISED NOBODY EVER GAVE HIM A HARD TIME ABOUT BEING AN AFRO CUBAN. HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD ABOUT HIM? HE WAS REALLY POPULAR BACK IN THE 90′S, HE WAS OUT THE SAME TIME AS MARIAH CAREY. WHAT IF MARIAH CAREY MARRIED MELLOW MAN ACE AND MELLOW MAN ACE IS ALMOST OLD ENOUGH TO BE A GRANDFATHER TO A NEWBORN BABY ARE YOU KIDDING THAT DUDE WAS BORN ON APRIL 12TH 1967 ALMOST 40 YEARS AGO I GUESS HE IS OFF THE MUSIC CHARTS NOW.
Posted 04 Nov 2005 at 7:52 pm ¶
mariela wrote:
mariah carey is an irish blaxican
Posted 07 Nov 2005 at 4:58 pm ¶
Anonymous wrote:
monkeylumps said…” my name is VERY white sounding….”
That sounds dumb. Who cares if your name is “VERY white sounding.” Are people suppose to put you on a pedastal for that. “Martin Luther King” sounds very white. “Fredrick Douglas” sounds very white. What does the sound of your name have to do with anything?
Also, all children are teased and harrassed when they are young and in many cases by children of a similar background. I think you are exaggerating the hostility you received from african-american children. I am also the product of an interracial marriage and have ambiguous looks. Sure some of the black kids in my neighborhood teased me and might have felt insecure, but most accepted me as a human being and treated me appropriately. And whatever hostility I received from them cannot compare to the racists comments I received from whites. I try to treat people as individuals and not base my reaction to them on the immaturity and meaness of a few derelicts.
If you want to identify yourself as biracial then do that. No one really cares, and if they do then they are being foolish because there are a lot more important things in this world to worry about than how you or other mixed raced people choose to identify yourself.
As for Mariah Carey, leave the woman alone. One day she is going to turn to dust like the rest of us.
Posted 08 Nov 2005 at 5:23 pm ¶
phanie wrote:
mariah nunez carey is not black. why do so many articles call her black and very rare is there any articles that call her white. i bet the reason some people call her black and not white is because she does not want to be white but she is white only half white. if mariah was 3/4’s black i would consider her black but not 3/8’s or half because half is only 50%, half is neutral. it appears mariah carey has a problem with being hispanic and white because there was an article on her 3 years ago that said mariah carey denies her real ethnicity she claims to be half black when everyone knows she is really half white and hispanic.
Posted 09 Nov 2005 at 6:28 pm ¶
phanie wrote:
mixed race people claiming more than one race are not in denial i wish people would stop saying that narrow minded shit.
Posted 09 Nov 2005 at 6:30 pm ¶
hello wrote:
what is a hispanic? Have you read history? Do you understand that hispanics are a mixed race people themselves? It is obvious that some of you posters are horribly uneducated.
Posted 11 Nov 2005 at 1:26 pm ¶
Teresa wrote:
What race do you consider a person to be if their mother is black and italian, and their Dad is Black?
Posted 12 Nov 2005 at 4:23 am ¶
mariela wrote:
mariah carey could be the next geena davis. how about that.
and dont anyone on here go and start attacking me for my comments.
i wont deal with it.
Posted 14 Nov 2005 at 4:59 pm ¶
mariela wrote:
if someone has a black italian mother and black father they would be 75% black and only one quarter italian. that is not true that you are not any of your mothers race no it is not i am sick of people saying that. people are lying when they say you are only what you father is but not what your mother is. people have every right to be some of their mothers race.
Posted 14 Nov 2005 at 5:02 pm ¶
lindsey wrote:
the latino mulatto mariah has a great voice
Posted 14 Nov 2005 at 7:23 pm ¶
lae lonni wrote:
nobody said that there was anything wrong with being black. that is not the case. the case is that mixed race people dont have to call themselves just regular plain old black. mariah carey is a white tan or shall i say white afrolatino lady. she does not have to call herself regular plain black only.
Posted 14 Nov 2005 at 9:51 pm ¶
OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!!! wrote:
Why should Mariah Carey be the next Geena Davis? Why can’t she just be Mariah Carey? Mariela, sweetheart, you are exaggerating Mariah’s phenotype and you sound very immature. Why is it so important to you that Mariah be recognized as looking like a white woman? Do you love the white race that much? Do you value white skin and “fine” features that much? Mariah Carey is not the next anything. She is MARIAH CAREY and worthy of esteem on her own merits. Grow Up!!!
Also the phrase “latino mulatto” doesn’t make any sense since latinos ARE mulattos due to their racial mixture. Study history people. Will you PLEASE study history!!!!!
Posted 14 Nov 2005 at 10:36 pm ¶
anoymous wrote:
just so you know, mariah is biracial. her mom is irish (white) and her dad is black. he is not venezuelan by blood, he was just born in venezuela. mariah is half black and half white
Posted 24 Nov 2005 at 5:01 pm ¶
MARIELA wrote:
WHAT DID I SAY I SAID DONT START ATTAKING ME OVER COMMENTS DAMMIT. I AM NOT SORRY FOR CALLING MARIAH CAREY WHITE PEOPLE ACT LIKE IT IS OKAY TO CALL HER BLACK BUT THE MINUTE YOU CALL HER WHITE YOU GET CORRECTED I AM SICK OF THAT. DONT CALL ME IMMATURE I DONT ACCEPT THAT NO THANK YOU. HOW CAN YOU CALL A MIXED PERSON WHITE, THE SAME WAY YOU CALL THEM BLACK.
Posted 26 Nov 2005 at 7:46 pm ¶
SAUNDRA wrote:
MARIAH CAREY IS NO MULATTO. SHE IS HISPANIC B0LACK AND WHITE.
WHY DOES SO MANY ARTICLES JUST CALL HER BLACK LIKE SOMEONE MENTION EARLIER. IT SEEMS THAT MARIAH CAREYS BEING PART BLACK IS MORE IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE THAN HER BEING WHITE AND HISPANIC.
Posted 26 Nov 2005 at 7:49 pm ¶
my my my... wrote:
monkeylumps…
I love how you clarified the meaning of the word “phenotype” by following it with the parenthtical “(i.e. looks)” Are you trying to suggest that the rest of us on this board are illiterate–that because you have a “very white sounding name” and hail from a “very white state” that you are the only “white looking black girl…” the “whitest black girl you know” who has a vocabulary that goes beyond the second grade?? Why don’t you just be white and leave the rest of us “lowly blacks” alone. You obviously have a negative image about black people, a negative image about yourself otherwise you wouldn’t emphasis how “white” you look and how “white” your name sounds.
Also, you don’t have to be white or look white to listen to 1980’s heavy metal or any music for that matter. I have studied the violin for over 15 years now. I listen to Mozart, Schuman, Bach but I also listen to Mary J Blige, Jay Z, Kanya West, U2, Gun n Roses, Etta James, Marvin Gaye, Sarah Vaghn, Nat King Cole, The Beatles…in short I listen to what appeals to me…I listen to the best. I am an African-American woman from the South Side of Chicago and PROUD OF IT. Yeah my father is Hispanic and my mother is African-American and I was raised to respect all people period. My racial make-up was never a big issue in my household because we were too preoccupied with more important issues like my education. We were and are a family first and foremost. There is nothing wrong with embracing both sides of your family, but don’t have to denigrate other people and “racial” groups in order to shore up your own self-esteem.
Monkeylumps, why don’t you just be white and leave the rest of us alone!!!
Posted 27 Nov 2005 at 2:32 pm ¶
You crack me up!!! wrote:
Mariela…
I have just read all your posts and you crack me up. Are you native to America or did you immigrate here? You sound so childlike in your posts. People can criticize you if they like. If Mariah Carey is half black and half white why is it okay to call her white but not okay to call her black? Except it, you are biased against black people to the point that you get upset because someone refers to Mariah Carey as black. Isn’t she part black, why should she call herself white if she is only HALF WHITE? You crack me up girl!!! Why don’t you do yourself and everyone else a favor and get a life.
Posted 28 Nov 2005 at 4:58 pm ¶
esmoralda wrote:
i must say there are controversial comments on mrs carey that seem very argumentive. this board is for conservative comments not for people to argue. people on here, stop arguing with other posters, stop calling other posters on here immature and stop telling others on here to shut up, that is not okay we dont need this, do you hear me that is not the way to behave. no it is not. we dont rudeness on this board take it somewhere else. now.
Posted 28 Nov 2005 at 5:25 pm ¶
You crack me up!! wrote:
First of all, Mariah Carey is not married so where did you get the “mrs carey” from?
Secondly you sound just like Mariela…in fact I belive you are Mariela and have just decided to post under a different name.
And finallly, since when did you become moderator of this board? No one told you, Mariela, to shut up. We’re just telling you that you sound ridiculous. Us posters have a right to express our opinions just as you do. Stop posting if you don’t want to hear counter arguments.
Posted 29 Nov 2005 at 11:14 am ¶
dp wrote:
Man who cares if she is white or black, But I tell you what she is down with black folks when her ass is trying to sell an album.
Posted 30 Nov 2005 at 3:06 pm ¶
LL cool kid wrote:
dp you are so right!!
Posted 30 Nov 2005 at 6:45 pm ¶
cicilee wrote:
mariah carey is a iriblazuelan prima donna.
Posted 01 Dec 2005 at 11:02 pm ¶
mariela wrote:
you crack me up says, no people cannot criticize me if they want to. no they cant, i am not enduring it so don’t be coming down on me and calling me childish and immature dont give me that damn funky behine shit. just because i feel that if mariah carey can be called black then she certainly can be called white was all i was saying.
i am not on here posting to have an argument. that is not what this board is about. i simply was stating that if mariah carey can be called black then she can be called white also and why do some people on her say that she is only black to sell records or when it is convient. why is it that she must be black just to sell records why doesnt she just be mixed just like she considers herself. i am not biased towards black because i am mixed with black and indian and white. why do people get corrected if they call mariah white. i dont care if she is part black because it does not mean anything. no it does not. and dont you ever tell me that people can criticize me if they want. no they cant. do you understand me. people can criticize me if they want to nothing. people can criticize me if they want to MY BUTT. i sound childish and immature nothing . i sound childish and immature MY BUTT. people on here do me all a favor. stop attacking other posters on this board and leave me the hell alone dammit AND GET THE HELL OF MY DAMN CASE. NOW NOW. I AM SICK OF THIS BADMOUTHING FROM OTHERS ON HERE SO STOP IT NOW. IT IS JUST PLAIN RIDICULOUS . JESUS CHRIST GOODNESS GRACIOUS. CHRIST SAKEZ. GGRRRRRRR.
Posted 01 Dec 2005 at 11:17 pm ¶
mysterie poster wrote:
is that all you people here on these message boardz know to do is bash other posters. you people need to cut that shit out it is crazy and ridiculous. what do you think this is the oprah winfrey show, the sally jessie raphael show. this is not a talk show or a bash other people show or catfight show. this is only a message board. that is right. this is not an oprah winfrey special or sally jessie raphael special. people cut this ridiculous shit out. life is too short to deal with folks act like fools. and as for miss mariah carey she is a white tan lady. she need a husband and kids with her beautiful self. and what in the world was she doing 12 years ago marrying a man who was old enough to be her pappy. you know what they say about women marrying men old enough to be their pappies. they are looking for a sugar daddy. so when mariah married tommy mattola 12 years ago she must have been looking for a sugar daddy.
Posted 01 Dec 2005 at 11:25 pm ¶
loretta wrote:
miss skygirl you are right it is time that mixed race people start taking pride in themselves and listening to false ideas of the world and they should continue to fight for their rightz to not be counted as monoracial.
you know it seems racist and discriminatory that if someone is mixed with black and non black they have to choose to be monoracial but if someone is mixed with white/asian white /hispanic or white/indian then they can be considered both. do any of you people on here know how racist and discriminatory and sad that seems even though on the census papers in the year 2000 (five years ago) they let people pick more than one race
box for their race to check. what racial box choices will be on the census in 2010 which is less than five years from now.
Posted 01 Dec 2005 at 11:32 pm ¶
elsa wrote:
mariah carey es blanca y latina y parte negra.
Posted 01 Dec 2005 at 11:37 pm ¶
Mz_sexidiva wrote:
is this an american bulletin?
Posted 02 Dec 2005 at 11:03 am ¶
mixed race lady wrote:
I DONT MEAN 2 BE RUDE BUT DONT U KNOW ANY THING ABOUT MIXE HERITAGE. I AM HALF BLACK( MUM JAMAICAN) AND HALF WHITE ( DAD BRITISH) NO 1 DARES EVER CALL ME BLACK BECOS THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IM NOT MORE OF 1 RACE THEN THE OTHER. MY SKIN TONE IS A LIGHT ORANGEY BROWN COLOUR, I HAVE WHITE FEATURES LIKE PINK LIPS EYES AND NOSE FEATURES AND LONG HAIR OF MY DAD, BUT MY HAIR IS DARK AND THICK OF MY MUM, SO I GET ANNOYED WHEN PEOPELE TALK SHIT ABOUT WHAT I AM. WHO GIVES A DAMN.
WOT I DONT GET IS WHY MARIAH CAREY IS LABELLED AS HALF HISPANIC BECAUSE SHES NOT SHE IS 50% BLACK 50% WHITE LIKE ME, HER DAD HAS NO HISPANIC BLOOD IN HIM, HE WAS BORN IN VENUZELA, WOW DOES THAT MEAN THAT HE IS HISPANIC NO, SO DONT SAY DAT SHE IS . MAYBE IF ANY OF YOU WAS MIXED RACE YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT. MY FRIEND IS BLACK BUT HIS SURNAME IS ENGLISH DOES THAT MEAN THAT HES WHITE OR HALF WHITE TOO. ANY IDIOT CAN TELL THAT MARIAH IS MIXED. HELLO LOOK AT HER FACIAL FEATURES CLEARLY SHE HASNT GOT A EUROPEAN NOSE BUT THAT OF A BLACK PERSON, HER SKIN COLOUR ISNT THAT LIGHT AND HAIR IS QUITE THICK BUT NOT AS THICK AS A FULLY BLACK PERSON. JUST 4 THE RECORD U CAN STILL TELL THAT HALLE BERRY IS WHITE AND BLACK, REGARDLESS OF HER ” DARK” SKIN COLOUR.
Posted 03 Dec 2005 at 8:41 am ¶
melissa wrote:
Mariela,
Why do you say “I don’t care if she [Mariah] is part black because it does not mean anything.” Why doesn’t the fact that Mariah Carey is part black mean anything. If that is a part of her racial background why can’t she embrace it? Why do you have so little respect for the fact that she is part black? Why do you find her black heritage so insignificant? I’m not trying to start an argument with you, but I am just curious that you seem to have so little regard and respect for black people. Just because you are part black does not mean you respect and esteem black history, culture, people etc. There are black/mixed raced people who are Uncle Toms and denigrate their black heritage/ethnicity.
I have no problem with people identifying themselves as biracial/multiracial, but from your comments you do seem to have a greater affinity for whites than blacks as evident by your anger over people identifying Mariah Carey as black and your insistence that she is the next Geena Davis. I happen to be biracial myself and I could care less what Mariah Carey chooses to identify herself as. If she wants to identify herself as multiracial then that is her business. If she wants to identify herself as black then that is her business too. I understand the need multiracial people have to embarce both cultures but it should not be at the expense of treating others (specifically non-mixed races black people) with disrespect.
Posted 03 Dec 2005 at 7:51 pm ¶
mystery poster wrote:
i notice there seems to be some argumentive comments on this message board about miss carey. isnt there rules against offensive and abusive comments and that people should not be on here attacking other posters just because they dont agree with what that poster says. just because you have a right to an opinion does not mean you criticize and insult other people and it also does not mean you have to use abusive hostile language to other posters on here. you people need to cut that crap out it is ridiculous stop putting down other posters it will not do any good and it wont get anyone anywhere. there are more important things to worry about rather than who thinks mariah carey is white or black or hispanic. mariah carey is mixed with afro hispanic but more white.
Posted 07 Dec 2005 at 11:15 pm ¶
mystery poster wrote:
mariela dont listen to other poster on here they are just trying to pick a fight which is unexcusable, but surely you must know that mariah carey is not the next jamie lee curtis or geena davis you are probably saying that because of her reddish looking hair that resembles theirs. mariah carey is mixed race she is not black or white she is mixed race.
Posted 07 Dec 2005 at 11:21 pm ¶
mariela wrote:
okay mariah carey is not half white. she is only black and hispanic. now does that make any of you people feel better. what about the poster who said what if mariah carey married mellow man ace. has anyone heard of him i have his escape from havana tape.
Posted 07 Dec 2005 at 11:24 pm ¶
celia wrote:
mariela, mariah carey is not looking for any sugar daddy you crazy girl.
but you are also silly. mariah dont even have a boyfriend. as mariah i wonder if her next albums in the years to come will be smooth jazz or salsa or hip hop dance pop or punk.
Posted 07 Dec 2005 at 11:27 pm ¶
rowena wrote:
mariah carey is a balladeer pop diva but her music is so rap musicky.
Posted 12 Dec 2005 at 8:01 pm ¶
katriana wrote:
mariah carey is not black she just has black in her, the only thing black about her is her onyx colored eyes that’s all. she is irish and venezuelan. she could go latina style.
Posted 13 Dec 2005 at 1:22 pm ¶
soraya wrote:
i bet if mariah carey were the same nationality as actress leslie bega(ex maria borges on head of the class) . then mariah carey would definitely not have to worry about any racial identity crisis and she probably would not have to prove herself to anyone in which she should not, as for leslie bega would any of you guess what nationality she is a very pretty lady though i know it is a little off topic.
Posted 13 Dec 2005 at 3:06 pm ¶
lala wrote:
how can anyone mistake mariah carey for paula abdul.
Posted 14 Dec 2005 at 3:10 pm ¶
penelope wrote:
what if mariah carey dated radio raheem.
Posted 14 Dec 2005 at 3:11 pm ¶
antonia wrote:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha yeah right lala. do you actually think she would go for a big heavy set guy like him. you got to be kidding. girl you’re silly.
Posted 14 Dec 2005 at 3:12 pm ¶
raquel alston wrote:
mariah carey i am biracial to girl so dont feel the only one i am 14 and im in the struggle trying to do something good with my life i want to be in back rounds of good music video’s.expecialy yours because i love every one of your songs so good talking to you
Posted 20 Dec 2005 at 7:42 am ¶
PENNY wrote:
WHAT IF MARIAH CAREY DATED FATS DOMINO?
Posted 04 Jan 2006 at 10:08 pm ¶
I'VE BEEN MANY PLACES AND SEEN MANY FACES... wrote:
THIS IS ALL JUST TOO SILLY!!!
MARIAH CAREY IS OF MULTI-RACIAL DECENT…I DON’T CARE WHAT ANYONE HAS TO SAY! CALL ME IGNORANT AND NAIVE BUT I STILL DON’T SEE HOW SHE COULD BE CATAGORIZED SOLELY AS BLACK!
I FEEL THAT ONE SHOULD AKNOWLEDGE EVERY LITTLE ASPECT OF ONE’S RACE! SO WHAT IF THE VENEZUELAN “RACE” IS OF AFRICAN DECENT! THATS HOW ALOT OF ETHNICITIES CAME TO BE…BY BEING MIXED WITH MANY OTHERS! I DON’T KNOW IF YOU’VE ALL HEARD OF THE WORD DIVERSITY! I LOVE MARIAH…SHE IS IN A UNIQUE MANNER A BEAUTIFUL AND REMARKABLE HUMAN BEING!!!
Posted 09 Jan 2006 at 12:17 pm ¶
222 wrote:
I don’t think any reasonable person would deny a mixed raced person the option to celebrate all aspects of their racial/ethnic background. But there are some posters on this board who seem intent on whitewashing Ms. Carey and making her the “next Jamie Lee Curtis/Geena Davis” whatever that means. If you’re mixed raced, I don’t see why you can’t embrace the black and white in you (or whatever your racial makeup might be) EQUALLY. But some posters on this board get upset with the notion that Mariah might identify with black people (which I don’t think she does) or embrace her black heritage. I guess (for some) its okay for a mixed raced person to embrace the non-black in them, but not okay to embrace the black in them.
Posted 10 Jan 2006 at 11:47 am ¶
sherri wrote:
mariah carey is hispanic. why is her hispanic heritage so less of an issue just because she is what either 1/4 or 1/8 hispanic?
Posted 20 Jan 2006 at 7:40 pm ¶
tiesha wrote:
why doesnt mariah carey just embrace the hispanic side of herself.
Posted 20 Jan 2006 at 7:43 pm ¶
Perhaps wrote:
Don’t you people understand!!! Mariah was raised by a WHITE-AMERICAN mother. Her knowledege of hispanic culture is limited. She has repeatedly said in interviews that she is of mixed background, that her father is black american/black venezulan. Given her upbringing, that is the best she can do. She doesn’t speak spanish, she doesn’t have any real affinity for hispanic food, culture, and history because she was raised by her mother who is a white-american. It was the responsibility of her father and his hispanic family to educate her on hispanic culture. OBVIOUSLY, her father and his family didn’t think it was necessary to expose Maraiah to hispanic/venezulena culture, otherwise he would have done it. From what I understand, Mariah Carey’s father was not very eductaed on hispanic culture himself because his venezulan father abandoned him as a child which is why Mariah’s father changed his last name from Nunez to Carey. You posters are too simple minded for your own good, and I don’t know if that is because of age or because of a lack of education. Yes Mariah Carey is mixed, but she is an individual with a personal history unique to herself which has shaped her thinking and her identity. If she doesn’t “embarace the hispanic side of her” it is because she was raised by her white mother in an anglo-american society. THINK PEOPLE!!!!!
tiesha said “why doesn’t mariah carey just embrace the hispanic side of herself”
ANSWER: BECAUSE SHE IS NOT JUST HISPANIC (WHATEVER THAT IS SUPPOSE TO MEAN). MARIAH IS, ACCORDING TO HER, OF AFRICN-AMERICAN, VENEZULAN, AND IRISH-AMERICAN DESCENT. SHE WAS RAISED BY HER IRISH-AMERICAN MOTHER ON LONG ISLAND IN A PREDOMINATELY WHITE COMMUNITY. WHY SHE SHE JUST EMBRACE HER HISPANIC HERITAGE AND NOT HER AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND IRISH-AMERICAN HERITAGE. WHAT MAKES JER HISPANIC HERITAGE SO SPECIAL.
Posted 21 Jan 2006 at 12:20 pm ¶
monkeylumps wrote:
Hmm…LOL, are you kidding me? “Shore up” my self-esteem? No, my self-esteem is fine, thanks. Yours, however, needs some work since you’re busy attacking me & telling me to “go be white.”
See, if you weren’t insecure, you wouldn’t be all up in my post. I stated some basic facts about myself. I described myself as looking white, which is true. I described myself as sounding like a typical white person, which is true. I said that Maine is the whitest state in America, which is true. I said that my name (Cathryn Lynn Taylor) is very white-sounding, which is true. I stated my musical preference, although I’m not above listening to some R & B and rap. DUH! Like I don’t know that black people enjoy different kinds of music! All of the above is true.
“A vocabulary above second grade.” Ooh, wow, what a witty insult! How long did it take to come up with that one? *rolls eyes* No, it’s called being well-educated.
I don’t consider myself white, by the way. YOU said it, not me. I said I’m mixed and I shared my experiences. I said OTHER folks consider me to be white. I said I have blue eyes & fair skin. I didn’t know I could piss somebody off by describing basic facts about myself. I KNOW I’m not the only white-looking black girl out there, I said I’m the whitest one that I know! Read, then think, before you respond to someone’s post. Clearly you’re immature, insecure, and looking to pick on somebody else. Hon, don’t play with me. You cannot infer that I think I’m white because of one silly post & you don’t know me, so stop with the unnecessary comments. You won’t win. This is the INTERNET, you do not know anything about anyone here.
I’m above that sort of petty nonsense and where in the name of Heaven did I denigrate anyone? I never said anything remotely disrespectful towards the black race because HELLO, I happen to be part black! Bye-bye.
Read the facts…don’t make personal attacks.
Posted 22 Jan 2006 at 3:37 pm ¶
Hello!! wrote:
I think all of you people need to get a life. Leave Mariah Carey alone. None of you have control over her. If she wants to identify as white, then let her. If she wants to identify as black, then let her. If she wants to identify as mixed then ;et her. Give the woman a break.
Posted 23 Jan 2006 at 12:48 pm ¶
PEACE PEOPLE PEACE!!!!!! wrote:
monkeylumps,
I’ve reading other postings you have left on other boards and even though I agree that people should not make personal attacks, you have the tendency to make personal attacks yourself whenever someone counters or critizes your postings. In this last post you state that no one can infer from one post that you have negative feelings towards African-Americans and yet you infer from the postings of anyone that challenges you, that they are immature and uneducated. Aren’t you speaking out of both sides of your mouth? If you can’t take the heat, then perhaps you should not post your comments on public message boards.
Think about it!
Posted 23 Jan 2006 at 12:56 pm ¶
mindy wrote:
mariah carey should just continue calling herself mixed race like has been doing in the beginning from 1990(16 years ago) when she released her first (debut) album. she should not claim to be only black just to sell records.
Posted 23 Jan 2006 at 10:20 pm ¶
mindy wrote:
mariah carey should just continue calling herself mixed race like she has been doing in the beginning from 1990(16 years ago) when she released her first (debut) album. she should not claim to be only black just to sell records. heck i but her records whenever they come out.
Posted 23 Jan 2006 at 10:25 pm ¶
Hey monkeylumps wrote:
I’ve been going over the various postings on mixed media…in some postings you state that your hair is brown…in others you state your hair is blonde. So which is it? Are you a natural blonde or dyed blonde? Just curious, since you say you are the whitest black girl you know.
Posted 24 Jan 2006 at 4:31 pm ¶
Hey monkeylumps wrote:
I just found another posted on media watch where you state that you are a white woman engaged to a black man you met in highschool. So what are you monkeylumps, white or black or mixed? Or are you a figment of your own imagination.
Posted 24 Jan 2006 at 4:37 pm ¶
I noticed also... wrote:
Yeah I notied the same discrepancy in monkeylumps’ charaterization of herself. Either she can’t recognize herself or someone else is posting with a similar name. I happen to think the former is true.
Posted 24 Jan 2006 at 4:42 pm ¶
Nicky wrote:
When I look at Mariah Carey,I see a woman who has black in her.She is always telling how people discriminated her.I can’t understand that.She is very light with straight hair.I think to she tried to pass for white and got caught.
Posted 25 Jan 2006 at 2:51 pm ¶
rosalynda wrote:
mariah carey is not the next jamie lee curtis or geena davis. she is also not the next minnie ripperingtone or chaka khan. mariah is the one and only mariah carey forever and ever.
Posted 25 Jan 2006 at 11:01 pm ¶
rosalynda wrote:
mariah carey passed for white since when i never heard of it. i think she is ashamed of being white as well as hispanic because she never calls herself white or latina alone she seems to be passing herself off for black nowadays. she must have issues with her hispanic and white heritage. it is obvious mixed race people are trained to say they are only black just to please others(society in particular) i once read an article on mixed race people where a black woman (with a mixed race child) she said that the government does not have the right to act as the racial police and tell her child to be black or white or else other and what about some black who think that mixed race people should not be considered black but something other than black and what about the ones who believe that white peoples time is about to end what about the census that ask for people race every ten years what race choices do you all think we will have on the 2010 census 2020 census 2030 census 2040 census 2050 census-the list could go on and on.
Posted 25 Jan 2006 at 11:10 pm ¶
cara wrote:
what is the penalty for mixed race people who claim to be something other than black, if mixed race people do such a thing what? will they be shot or set on fire or will they be charged with a crime of capitol offense-first degree denial of black heritage will they plead gulity or no contest or will they be executed or struck by lightning or will they get the death penalty, or will they be cast out the garden of eden or will they be sent to the devils house.
Posted 25 Jan 2006 at 11:16 pm ¶
daisy wrote:
cara please you sound like you have gone off the deep end. there is not such a punishment for being mixed and claiming something other than black, besides who mixed race people see themselves is up to them.
Posted 25 Jan 2006 at 11:18 pm ¶
gigi wrote:
i think the reason mariah carey calls herself black now is because she is tired of always trying to prove her mixed heritage and i guess she probably just gave up on proving her mixed heritage.
Posted 26 Jan 2006 at 9:49 pm ¶
gena wrote:
mariah carey has given up on claiming being mixed race because obviously it is too hard for her as well as other mixed race people. being mixed race is a no-win-situation. a long time ago i once read an article on her where she said she wish she was only one race.
Posted 30 Jan 2006 at 10:03 pm ¶
missy wrote:
I think you have the wrong attitude gena. Life can be difficult for anyone. All people have suffered becasue of their minority status: Africans, Jews, Arabs, Asians etc…. I don’t think Mariah Carey has given up on claiming her mixed-raced background. Some people on this message board are just upset because she refuses to deny her African heritage which is just as worthy of attention as her Irish-American heritage. I have come to the conclusion that many persons of mixed heritage want to disassociate themselves from their African heritage because they have a negative image of African people. They are the unfortunate victims of the racist world we live in. There is nothing wrong with claiming both sides (or all sides) of one’s heritage but when a mixed raced person goes around asserting that they are the next Geena Davis, I have to question their self-esteem and their respect for people of African descent.
Posted 31 Jan 2006 at 6:49 pm ¶
cee cee wrote:
in the last four years why have people been calling mariah carey a bitch slut whore hoe and the most stupidest s.h.i.t on the planet . mariah is none of those things. i suppose people called her those things because they are jealous of her.
Posted 04 Feb 2006 at 7:46 pm ¶
gena wrote:
wrong attitiude nothing. there is an article somewhere where mariah carey said she was only black even though she is also white too. dont any of you remember when mariah was on the front cover of ebony magazine in march 1994, 12 years ago she said it bothers people that she does not call herself black only and that if she were to say she is only black she would be negating here mother who raised her. and also what about the 2000 census from 6 years ago when people could choose more than one race to identify with.
Posted 04 Feb 2006 at 7:50 pm ¶
Okay??? wrote:
gena, get a life. Don’t you understand, the Mariah is all about making money. She is goping to say whatever gets her some extra cash. So, chill!!!
Posted 06 Feb 2006 at 2:27 pm ¶
alia wrote:
gena mariah has not given up on being mixed she knows she is mixed race. but i guess the reason she calls herself black is because she works with lots of blacks in her music videos. nobody is telling her to deny her black side or white side. but you are right mixed race people need to continue asserting their mixed race heritage and not give up on it.
Posted 06 Feb 2006 at 11:19 pm ¶
gena wrote:
get a life and chill, my butt. mariah is brainwashed into saying she is black. (she is mixed). what about all the people who say she is only black when it is convient and she only claims black just to sell records nobody is telling them they are wrong for saying so.
Posted 06 Feb 2006 at 11:22 pm ¶
mystery poster wrote:
people on here there is no need to pick fights and argue with other posters on here so stop that mess right now it wont get any of you all anywhere. it is not like you can go through the computer and bet somebody up so stop arguing and acting like fools it is very childish. be adults here. life is too short for a whole bunch of mess. cant we all just get along. about miss carey she should continue asserting her mixed race heritage and not let anyone brainwash her into saying she is monoracial. she is not black or white she is mixed. how would any of you feel if even though you considered yourselves black or white or mixed somebody contradicted you and told you what you are just because that is what they want you to be? there is a saying do unto others as you would want them to do unto you.
Posted 06 Feb 2006 at 11:28 pm ¶
Blah Blah Blah... wrote:
That’s a very stong statement you are making. Can you prove she was brainwashed. And by whom, pray tell?
Posted 07 Feb 2006 at 11:55 am ¶
lindsey wrote:
if mariah carey wants to acknowledge her black heritage than she can but she should not distance herself from her irish venezuelan heritage also.
Posted 07 Feb 2006 at 11:33 pm ¶
soraia wrote:
mystery poster mariah carey was not brainwashed into identifying as black. some people have said she is only black when it is convient and to sell records. mariah carey probably identifies as black because blacks support her more her calling herself black does not make her any less white and latino .
Posted 07 Feb 2006 at 11:36 pm ¶
melissa wrote:
i guess there reason mariah carey identifies as black is because she works with so many blacks in music and with her music career.
Posted 08 Feb 2006 at 11:06 pm ¶
angelina wrote:
because mariah carey works with so many black artists it has been a big influence on her life and career that is why she embraces her black heritage the most.
Posted 09 Feb 2006 at 10:12 pm ¶
jenifer wrote:
mariah carey is latina.
Posted 15 Feb 2006 at 10:29 pm ¶
noellia wrote:
mariah carey is only 1/8 venezuelan.
Posted 01 Mar 2006 at 11:08 pm ¶
HELLO!!! wrote:
I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS DEBATE IS STILL GOING ON. YOU PEOPLE ARE LOSERS!!
Posted 02 Mar 2006 at 5:05 pm ¶
SUZETTE wrote:
BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ON HERE POST ABOUT MISS MARIAH ANGELA CAREY LIKE THEY OWN HER THEY GET ANGRY IF YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT MARIAH THAT THEY DONT LIKE AND ATTACK OTHER POSTERS ON THIS BOARD THAT IS NOT OKAY, I AM TIRED OF PEOPLE POSTING ABOUT MISS CAREY LIKE THEY OWN HER IN WHICH THEY DONT AND I AM TIRED OF PEOPLE ON HERE ARGUING WITH OTHER MEMBERS ON THIS BOARD, THAT IS NOT OKAY. SOME PEOPLE ON HERE SHOULD BE BANNED AND NOT ALLOWED TO POST IF THEY ARGUE WITH OTHERS IF PEOPLE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OTHER POSTERS COMMENTS THEN THEY SHOULD TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE ARGUING OVER COMMENTS WONT GET YOU ANYWHERE. YOU CANT GO THROUGH A COMPUTER AND KNOCK SOMEONE OUT OR BEAT SOMEONE UP BECAUSE THEY SAY SOMETHING YOU DONT LIKE.
Posted 08 Mar 2006 at 11:02 pm ¶
linea wrote:
mariah carey is a mongrol who does not really claim any race.
Posted 09 Mar 2006 at 11:33 pm ¶
valeria wrote:
i agree that just because you have a right to your opinion does not mean you should be rude insulting nasty and verbally abusive to other posters on these boards. it wont get you anywhere and it wont solve anything either this is a message board not a court case or talk show.
Posted 10 Mar 2006 at 7:43 pm ¶
valeria wrote:
for all people on this message board arguing about what to say about miss carey what do we need to do take it to the peoples court and let the honorable judge wapner solve this matter come to think of if i have not seen the peoples court since 13 years ago in 1993 when a cats owner sued a dogs owner because a dog viciously bit a cats legs and had the poor cat screaming for life i mean jesus christ i once read on a hating mariah carey site where someone said mariah takes a bath with her dog.
Posted 10 Mar 2006 at 7:48 pm ¶
lauren wrote:
valeria you must be kidding why would she take a bath with her dog.
Posted 10 Mar 2006 at 7:49 pm ¶
TABITHA wrote:
MARIAH CAREY IS A 90′S AND 2000′S GENERATION DIVA.
Posted 14 Mar 2006 at 11:39 pm ¶
RAMONA wrote:
MARIAH CAREY IS NOT BRAINWASHED INTO IDENTIFYING AS ANYTHING.
Posted 16 Mar 2006 at 11:33 pm ¶
clara wrote:
as for miss carey i wonder if she will release an album for this year?
Posted 03 Apr 2006 at 10:22 pm ¶
Rafael y Al-Raafiq Hasaan wrote:
Mariah Carey is black. The nose says it all. When she gains weight, it says it all.
Posted 15 Apr 2006 at 2:09 pm ¶
Tha Blaq Sinattra wrote:
every black person is mixed from our folks being raped during slavery. but we are trying to build our pride because we’re taught that black heritage is somehow bad. many great black folks were “mixed” -web dubois, booker t washington, fredrick douglas, adam clayton powell, malcolm x, bob marley
Posted 22 Apr 2006 at 3:16 pm ¶
DIANE wrote:
MARIAH CAREY IS NOT BLACK MARIAH CAREY IS NOT EVEN MULATTO SHE IS MULTIRACIAL
Posted 22 Apr 2006 at 6:47 pm ¶
I'mNumberOne wrote:
A Latino person can be 100 % of African descent. The person doesn’t have to be of mixed Spanish, African and/or Indian heritage to be a Latino. If you’re born in a Spanish-speaking or Portuguese-speaking country in the Western Hemisphere then you’re a Latino.
Mariah Carey’s father was a black man born in Venzuela. The fact that he was all or mostly black, doesn’t make him any less of a Latino.
It’s just like if a person is African-American, they are all or mostly of African descent but born in America. African is the race and American is the nationality. That’s why you hear terms like Afro-Cuban, Afro-Brazilian, Afro-Puerto Rican to describe the people who identify themselves as black or obviously look black.
Mariah Carey’s father was an Afro-Venzuelan. Look up pictures of him to see for yourself.
Mariah’s father didn’t try to really teach her about the Latino culture because Latinos were very discriminated against when he first came to the U.S. That’s why her grandfather changed their name from Nunez to Carey. It was easier to be just a black American than a black Latino in those days.
So that’s why Mariah identifies herself as biracial, just black and white.
Because her father was a black man and her mother was white.
Posted 02 May 2006 at 4:20 am ¶
clara wrote:
why dont mixed race assert their mixed race heritage instead of saying they are only one race because they think they have to, mariah carey just considers herself black (even though she is mixed race) because she thinks she has to. mariah is not black she is triracial.
Posted 02 May 2006 at 10:38 pm ¶
clara wrote:
i m number one i like your posted comment you are very right. just because mariah is only 1/8 hispanic does not make her non hispanic, she is hispanic but only very little hispanic. i know a girl who is part black and part hispanic who lives with her paternal grandma and it bothers her that some people on her dads side of the family including her dads mama dont want to admit they she is part hispanic they say stupid damn funky shit like hispanics think they are better than everyone else-especially blacks and hispanics are nasty people so somebody on here please tell me that not all hispanics are like that and that some of them are good people like the rest of the rainbow hues of people blacks whites asians indians and mixed race folks.
Posted 02 May 2006 at 10:45 pm ¶
SUEZANNE wrote:
MARIAH CAN BE WHAT SHE WANTS. THIS 2006 NOT SLAVERY DAYS. WHY IS THAT SO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND.
Posted 10 May 2006 at 10:23 pm ¶
tabitha wrote:
mixed race people should not be deprived of their rights to identify as more than one race. nobody says that mixed race people should reject/deny their black or nonblack heritage. but why should the one drop rule be support it is only a fogy racist myth to promote racism from which it grew.
Posted 27 May 2006 at 5:23 pm ¶
Sarida wrote:
I have read some very interesting comments on this website. I would like to shake the hands of the few on here, who really know the differences between “Nationally” and “Race”. Some people out in this world are so misinformed about cultural history. This is the year 2006, and we the people who know the true meaning of humanity, should make up a new doctrine around the world that states: Anyone who is born on the planet earth will be classified as HUMAN BEINGS and nothing more. There will be no more racial classifications. No more,”One drop rule” No more, ” I look like this and I look like that” No more,” I got my hair from some other culture, this is why I look like this” No more,” I’m a redbone, he is blue black” “OOh girl, you got some ‘good’ hair” etc…..I get so tired of hearing stuff like this.
The one thing that irritates me the most is ” Good Hair” who in the hell came up with this statement. What is Good Hair? I thought “Good Hair” was clean washed hair. I thought “Bad Hair” was hair that is not washed. Is kinky hair supposed to be “BAd?” Why isn’t it “Good?” I wish someone could explain to me what is good and bad hair, because I haven’t seen it Yet…and I have been on this earth for 34 years. And, correct if I’m wrong, but I have seen all nationalities and races with the same types of hair. If we see a “White person” with kinky afro like hair, why can’t we say that person is of African Descent? Where do we draw the line when it comes to “Characteristics of Races?”
I hear so many hispanic people calling themselves “Latino” Or “Hispanic” But, not once have I heard them say what “race” they are. I mean are you saying you are”Indian “White” “Black” the only thing that is being claimed is origin. I never understood that. I asked a hispanic person what he was and he couldn’t answer it. He kept saying, “Im hispanic” and I’m like,”Okay, I get that part, but what are you?” still no answer.
I prefer to be called American, but in reality, because society says so, I have to claim a “color” Why? What if I don’t want to be called “Black” “WHite” or whatever..couldn’t I just be whatever I wanted? I still haven’t seen a real black person or white person. I have looked at my own skin tone. When I choose my attire, my favorite color to wear is black.When I put my skin tone to it, I look”brown” so why in the hell did they make it a law that I should be called, “Black” that has never made sense to me!!!! And I think that if you were not born in Africa or whatever other country, why do they want you to claim a place you have never been to? ANd if there are other ‘brown” people who look like you and they claim to be themselves as something else, why in the world can’t they be categorized as “BLACK” too. Besides Mariah, people are mad at that MTV host, “LA LA” because she said she is 100% puerto rican> Did anyone get confused with her statement? I didn’t. If we can say we are 100%American, why get mad at her for saying that she is 100%Puerto Rican. She wasn’t denying where she came from. She was asked about her heritage and she told where she came from. What if it had been a Chinese person? Say that person was born in AMerica, and was asked the same question, what if he’s said, “100% Chinese” I guess a stupid person would be like, “Oh, that dude don’t want to be american! He dissing his American side.” That wouldn’t make since at all.
Also, I come from two of the most beautiful cultures around the world. My ancestors of course, slaves from Africa and Native Indians. I claim both, but most importantly, I claim being a human being first. I don’t care what people think. That is what is wrong with society..THINKING TOO MUCH. GOT TOOOO MUCH TIME THEIR HANDS…DON’T GOT A LIFE… WHO ON THIS WEBSITE, arguing about SKIN TONE, HAIR TEXTURE…WHat is next? I FIND IT