Comments

1. Damie wrote:

   Essence is a stupid, black militant, magazine. I think people like Mariah would make more sense saying their white, she looks like it. But I’m bored with continuing that specific debate.

   Posted 15 Mar 2005 at 8:41 am ¶

2. Lyonside wrote:

   Um, I’m not planning to get into past debates again, but… Carey’s skin color is darker than Beals. That’s whacked by your standards of who should and shouldn’t be mixed, right? So where do you draw the color/hair/face feature line for who is or isn’t allowed to be called mixed?

   And who of mixed heritage DOESN’T look white to you?

   Posted 16 Mar 2005 at 2:37 pm ¶

3. Damie wrote:

   Carey looks white to me, like the medeteranians. I only give my opinions, I would never command anyone how to identify.

   Posted 17 Mar 2005 at 7:19 am ¶

4. lyonside wrote:

   > like the medeteranians

   I’ve met many people of greek, italian, and turkish descent.

   None of them have looked like Mariah Carey.

   Maybe the “mediterranean” people you know are, well, mixed?

   Posted 17 Mar 2005 at 5:29 pm ¶

5. Damie wrote:

   Mere individual perception isn’t worth debate. I’m fascinated by human genealogy, and actually a good portion of “Meds” do have a slight mix on average. Especially Sicilians, some Greeks and southern Spaniards who were DNA tested as 3% black. No one is totally pure, but many people are overwhelmingly one race.

   Posted 21 Mar 2005 at 6:07 am ¶

6. lucky wrote:

   does it matter?Mariah is truly multiracial -her mother white,her father black veneauelan (and all that ,that entails-white spanish,native american and african) c’mon people let’s push things forwrd.

   Posted 26 Mar 2005 at 8:22 pm ¶

7. Naisha wrote:

   Black genes over dominate white genes, so any one with I dont know some random number…..15% of black in them, can have overwhelming black features. Even if she wanted to call herself white, I don’t think that they would let her, because its obvious that she’s not all white, thats why when she first came out, stupid people were giving her a hard time because they couldnt claim her as bein a “white person”, with that beautiful “soulfull” voice and racially ambiguous looks. And how dare you refer to essence as a stupid “black militant” magazine, so If blacks have something that they can portray “themselves” in positively and its not targeting white people, or any other race. its “militant”, If essence is militant, then YM, Vogue, Elle and all those other “white dominated” magazines are militant also, because they obviously target rich to middle class suburban white teens and adults, they exude the same exclusiveness, just in a different way, this is obvious when they throw in a few blacks here and there to try to suffice. If we don’t target our race in a positive way who will?? obviously not vogue or “Cosmo”

   Posted 04 Apr 2005 at 2:58 am ¶

8. AJ wrote:

   This is why do not read essence–it is written by some of the most ignorant self loathing simple minded folks on the planet. The fact that blackness is only being marketed as “blood” and phenotype is problematic. This is the big news? Mariah Carey the most misunderstood black woman??? Please. Have they spoken about the women in America protesting the genocide in Sudan? Have they covered the women starting non-profits for under privileged girls? Yes, race is an issue and being mixed race can hurt someone as they are forming their identity–however, blackness is not just about your blood–it is about your brain. Women like Peggy McIntosh go unmentioned in their mag but WOW Mariah Carey!!!!!!!!

   “I didn’t know she was mixed. But after hanging out with her I realized she listens to hip-hop all day long.”

   Is he fucking kidding me???? Listening to hip hop cancels out her “mixed heritage???” Um, that is by far one of the most ignorant pieces of shit I have ever read–especially since–statistically the majority of people who listen to hip hop are white.

   Ugh. It is trash. Don’t waste your money/time.

   Posted 05 Apr 2005 at 5:14 pm ¶

9. Lucy wrote:

   i totally agree with AJ. i am white and i listen to hip-hop. what the hell was that man going on about.
   Essence magazine appears to describe her struggles through life, but she’s famous and rich for fuck sake. Didn’t they see the pics of her in heat with a lorry load of luggage.
   To truly see how ‘mixed race,’ people are percieved they need to talk to some that live in the normal world,not some stuck up, rich tart.

   Posted 08 Apr 2005 at 3:38 am ¶

10. Naisha wrote:

    ummm….black people CREATED hip-hop and theres no argument there, so that really makes your statistics nothing of worth, they can “listen” to it all they want to. And to “lucy” Im sure Mariah Carey has not been rich her entire life, but she has been multiracial her entire life, I think she would have some authority on the subject, especially to someone who’s not even biracial and from the outside looking in.

    Posted 13 Apr 2005 at 12:11 am ¶

11. Lisa wrote:

    There is some truth in all the comments listed here. And on many levels its all relevant. AJ obviously gets “it”. And thats a relief because I thought I was the only one paying attention, keeping watch, reading, listening and observing, while the rest of you all miss the big picture. All of this bullshit in these magazines, the booty shakin in these videos, and these “so called” rappers hatin on each other is a diversion. The purpose of which is to shift everyones focus. While ya’ll are looking over here the real shit is goin down in Africa. Oh and most definitely here in the states too. While you all debate about Mariah Carey, another genocide is taking place in the Sudan. Remember Rwanda? in 93/94? Yet another mass(1million Africanz) genocide that occured while Clinton was sittin in office gettin his d_ _ _ sucked by Monica. Yeah, their plan is to wipe out the MotherLand because of its natural resources, among other things. They done put that reverse psych on ya’ll again. They make you dislike something, and then when you throw it away, their right behind you picking it up. They steel your culture and then sell it right back to you. They give you a record label but they own the distribution. They advertise their products with your music. They hate the way we speak, but they love the “slang “phrases we come up with so they put them in the dictionary, in commercials and ads. Hell they even use ‘em after we’ve moved on to the next one. They wanna be us so damn bad, but they can’t so they make us hate ourselves. I dont know ’bout ya’ll but loves me some Black Folk. So stop fallin for the diversion tactics and pay attention to the real stories of substance that should arouse discussion. The stories that are relegated to the back page of a newspaper in some tiny article or better yet in some magazine some black folk would dare to pick up!

    Posted 15 Apr 2005 at 2:02 am ¶

12. TheDogon wrote:

    Well, all I can say is whatever. Essence seems to have “embraced” Mariah. But it’s not so hard to understand what Mariah has typically done. She has exploited her “Blackness” to make a buck. She’s only “Black” when it is convenient to be “Black”.

    Oh. . .and about the title of the article. . .er. . .Mariah is “Black”, well when she wants to be. . .along with a host of other things. You folks need to grow up and understand a person can be a member of many cultures as long as those cultures accept them.

    Do “Black” folks accept Mariah as being “Black”? Er . .yep. No matter how nutty she is.

    As for her membership in other cultures American Indian, “White”, etc. that’s not “our” business.

    Posted 15 Apr 2005 at 4:07 pm ¶

13. Naisha wrote:

    lisa-I definately dont think that “mariah” is a diversion, its not that serious. “weapons of mass destruction was a diversion”, this “war” is a diversion, the clinton thing was a diversion, the Bush administration is permeanantly distracted, people piss me off when they want to complain and act so concerned about how black folks should act, and all the degredation down in Africa, but sit back at a safe view and write commentary, lacking action all together. All we can do is learn about ourselves and where we came from so no one else can claim our culture, or tell us where we came from, and as far as slanf id concerned, I believe we should know whats ignornant and what is not, do want to know where “slang” came from, it came from when slaves couldnt read, and we just kept our “ignorant”language, we arent slaves anymore, but we still speak like them. It may only be terms of endearment, but lets face it, other races see us ignorant for it, they may wanna be like us, but when they go into an interview, they speal properly. We need to speak properly at all times. and DOGON- how can someone exploit their “blackness” for a buck? if thats the case, almost of black artists would be multiplatinum, umm I think it has something to do with talent. She makes music that people like, you can’t just pull that out of your ass. Either your born with it or not, because trust me I’ve seen many oreos, black and white who try to act fully black, and I can see right through it. If your black and you where raised with a very weak standard of “blackness” you should be yourself. Shes just being herself, and anyway, again I say, if your not multiracial you don’t really know hat its like so you can’t criticize and pull someone from race to race based on looks, or actions, anytime you want.

    Posted 16 Apr 2005 at 2:53 am ¶

14. mariah carey is hispanic wrote:

    mariah carey is hispanic although she is really mixed race. why is it okay is someone who is mixed with white/asian, hispanic/white or indian to say that they are both races and they dont have to choose a monoracial label,
    but if someone is mixed with black/white, black/hispanic, black/indian or black and asian they must choose a monoracial label. that is very racist discriminatory and disgusting. i agree that even though mariah carey is black as well as hispanic she is white too. mariah carey is white or shall i say half white. so yes it is okay to call her white too. she is not all white but only half, i do agree on that. i read in her story when she had an interview with jet magazine nearly six years ago in late may 1999 she was talking about how people would misjudge her saying, they claim she would say things out of the blue and they would take it out of context and they would see her as a tramp(in which she is not) they lying and falsely accused her of sleeping around in which she never did, she is not that kind of lady, no not miss mariah, she is too intelligent for that. then there was the part where she says ” why is it that if someone is chinese and italian they dont have to define who they are but when it comes to a black and white thing people are put up in arms. if mariah was on a hispanic magazine would she be labelled ” americas misunderstood hispanic woman” and if she were on an irish examiner magazine would she be labelled “americas misunderstood irish woman”.

    Posted 16 Apr 2005 at 6:19 pm ¶

15. anonymous wrote:

    mariah carey is not black she is mixed race. why do so many people call her black when she is more white and part hispanic. well yes she is part black but she is hispanic and white too.

    Posted 16 Apr 2005 at 6:23 pm ¶

16. Crazy wrote:

    Yes, black people created hip-hop–however using its creation as measure of blackness is ridiculous and problematic. Hip-hop does make someone more black. Period.

    Posted 19 Apr 2005 at 10:12 am ¶

17. anonymous wrote:

    mariah carey is not black. she is a half white blaxican(black-hispanic).

    Posted 20 Apr 2005 at 8:31 pm ¶

18. anonymous wrote:

    the point i was trying to make about mixed race americans choices to identify as mixed is that when people say that asian/white mixed people or hispanic white mixed people or even indian white mixed people dont have to choose a monoracial label to self identify that is like saying that people who are asian/white hispanic/white or even indian white are better than people are black/white black/hispanic black/indian or black/asian in which they are not do people see the point. as for tiger woods he is not wrong for identfying as asian with black he has every right to say he is just as much asian as black. as for mariah carey she is hispanic mulatto.

    Posted 20 Apr 2005 at 9:24 pm ¶

19. jy wrote:

    black is a culture. People need to become more educated about raqce as a culture. Mariah Carey, or any other person who has negro ancestry, does not have to identify his or herself as black, but everyone who has negro ancestry is a NEGRO. Being black means participating in the culture of african-americans and supporting ideas and beliefs that advance african-americans. Being a negro does not obligate anyone to support ideas or engage in a particular behavior, activity or pastime.

    Posted 23 Apr 2005 at 4:06 pm ¶

20. Naisha wrote:

    …….(scratching head)……

    Posted 26 Apr 2005 at 2:41 am ¶

21. Melodia wrote:

    Mariah used to be good and it didn’t matter what she was until she started this whole im black bullsh#$. She knows she can’t be cool like the black so she has to hang out with them and feel like one of them. I’m tired of her pretending to be black and saying I’m black bla bla. She is just saying that to make more money and sound good like all the black artists. You can tell by looking she is white she is more white than anything. She looks hispanic and white. NO black. It’s not just me who thinks that I was watching her on a tv show the other day along with a few other people. They were saying she was not black no way she could be and I agree. It’s like she is ashamed of her white and hispanic side. Her skin is pale, with caked on orange tan its obvious. Her hair is dyed blond. Why is it someone who claims to be black is trying hard to look more white than she is?

    Why is it if you say you have 2% black in you, you are black?? On the other races you have 2% you arent considered enough to be that race to count?
    Why doesnt she do everyone a favor and go back to the way she used to be curly brown hair and pale skin and make good music like she used to?
    I’m hispanic and proud of it and if I found out i was black or any other be ashamed of what the majority race I am unlike some people. (mariah {white girl and a little hispanic} carey)

    Posted 17 May 2005 at 7:53 am ¶

22. Latisha wrote:

    Uh actually lisa hol up i dunno bout da part whurr u say dat we take yo words???????! hello vanilla ice made up half dat shit [[bling bling,ice]]

    Posted 18 May 2005 at 7:32 pm ¶

23. Michelle wrote:

    Mariah carey is, from what i read, half white. she is 25% or so Black and 25% or so hispanic. so if she had to pick ONE race, it would duhhhhhh be WHITE! why does everyone seem to think being black is a privledge. u should be satisfied with all your races. i dont agree with the IGNORANT saying “black is a more dominant race” shut that stupid shiz up! you are what you are. I may look more white but i am half asian. i dont care what i look like because i know what I AM and its not PRIDE its an exception. Mariah carey, tiger woods, charlie baltimore, etc need to quit goin along saying they are black and just come out and say “I am mixed” or “I am what I am and who cares?” My son is half black and looks more black than white and thai, but i am definatly going to tell him “do not forget your cultureS. You are THAI, WHITE, BLACK AND ALL THE LITTLE RACES IN THERE. ” and who is raising him? the thais and the whites. so if I HAD to pick one color, it would be MIXED. that should be an option.

    stop being ignorant kids.

    Posted 20 May 2005 at 3:28 am ¶

24. Michelle wrote:

    i agree with melodia. i was completely thinkin why the hell is her hair blond? i know black women with blond hair look black, but mariah and her straight long blond hair??? get some traditional black hair do or something. i really dont give a damn about mariah at all, i cant stand her. all her videos she feels all over herself wearing the same effin short as shorts. she looks like a frog! all her songs sound the same and she tries to sing like bone tone. (bone thugs and harmony) she gets on my damn nerves. call it hating but im entitled to not like someone judged by what i see. how on Cribs, she had to change her outfit in every effin room. ugh i cant stand that girl.

    Posted 20 May 2005 at 3:33 am ¶

25. kyankee wrote:

    michelle, leave my girl alone

    Posted 27 May 2005 at 9:24 pm ¶

26. mArIaH cArEy_bLaCk_FaN wrote:

    MARIAH CAREY is black…white + black = BLACK !

    Posted 28 May 2005 at 11:59 am ¶

27. Tee wrote:

    God, thank you JY for breaking it down for these people. I am mixed race ( Black and White). I call myself black because I want to. I have an Italian father and I am proud of him. He has no problem with me embraces my blackness. If Tiger Woods can make up some ridiculous shit like Cablasian then Mariah Carey can be whatever she wants to be- Mariah Carey is a grown azz woman !! Just because she chooses to primarily celebrate her black culture does not making her a hater of all of her other “mixes”. Goodness, she woke up to the face of a white mother most of her life so it would be ridiculous for people to think that she doesn’t realize that she is also part white/hispanic. I think the mixed race people that are running so hard from their black side are always attacking anybody that is mixed with black that readily embraces their blackness with no issues. Leave this woman alone. If you want to chose to call yourself mixed then she has the right to celebrate her blackness with no shame. Oh, and yes Michelle being black is a privilege.

    Posted 06 Jun 2005 at 9:48 am ¶

28. anonymous wrote:

    that annoying magazine what it wants to say, but mariah carey identifys as mixed race and for some reason hasen’t found it easy. i know this because i read about her in a magazine were the words were actually her own and she said that she wants to do something like write a book for mixed race kids, would she do that and inspire them if she didn’t identify as mixed- no. that magzine just wants to say she identifys as black, because it is about black acheivements and they want her to say she is black. how she identify is up to her she she is hispanic, black and white and should not have to chose.

    Posted 06 Jun 2005 at 1:01 pm ¶

29. me wrote:

    mariah carey is venezauelan and venezauelan’s are NOT black, they are not white either. But because some one is classed as not white the black race have to claim them as one of their own, just like the tried with the chinese in the 1990’s
    venezauelan is venezauelan, white is white and black is black !
    http://www.venezuelaladies.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/BeachPond.jpg
    have a look at he pic for instance

    and Tee, italian has never been classed as black !
    i wish you people would get an education

    Posted 06 Jun 2005 at 8:48 pm ¶

30. Tee wrote:

    Me, are you confused? Maybe you did not see the picture of Mariah’s father and I am positive that you do not know the history of black people in the world. During the slave trade many Africans were dropped off on these various islands and countries
    so thus you have the “black ” venezulians, “black” cubans,dominincians, brazilians ( over 90% identify as black), “black” colombians, puerto ricans, etc. Even some of the lighter skin in the countries skin have black in them so what is your point?
    Where the hell have you been?
    What do you think the only “black” people are in America and in Africa?? Huh??

    Mariah’s father is a self-identified black man that was raised in another country that speaks Spanish,but he is still not black? You are kidding me, right?
    Furthermore,I have a Masters degree and I am currently working on my PhD and writing my dissertation on Blacks and the skin color conflict around the world. That certainly doesn’t make me the race relations guru but I am not an idiot and I am well studied in this area. So please save the dumb “get an education” statements for the “just say no” campaign.
    Also, please stop using the Internet as your only educational resource. Remember the internet is primarily comprised of opinions - very few facts. Try studying history and other cultures before you begin ranting about what race a person SHOULD call themselve just because they live in a particular country.
    Also, who said Italians were classed as black? You totally lost me there. I said my father is Italian and my mother is black- so where did you get “Italians are classed at black ” from? “I” chose to call myself black - that IS my choice to do so. I love my father and respect him and the Italian culture. I have no reason to deny that side of me. In conversation I acknowledge it and talk candidly about being mixed without shame or fear . Mind you I was not raised in some of the environments that some mixed race have experienced. I was raised around primarily respectful black and white people that did not spend time beating up on a person because they were a little different.

    Now understand, Venezula is a country with a culture, white is a culture and same goes for “black”, so your white is white and black is black, veni is veni statement is damn ridiculous.
    You may loathe black people and want to deny that part of you if you are partially black, but there are countless people that have no problem. This is my fear with the multiracial movement- instead of it forging ahead positiveness about mixed race people it will bring out in extreme numbers the “self-haters” that have been waiting for a platform to make themselves appear to be better that “regular” blacks being they have white blood.

    Posted 07 Jun 2005 at 7:49 am ¶

31. Laila wrote:

    Tee,
    You are on the money love! I totally agree and believe that it is self haters pushing the multiracial movement not rational minded mixed race people that just want to be respected and acknowledged. The self haters want their own category so they can be “exclusive” and viewed as better. Give me a break. Stereotypes follow every group so if you are hoping to escape any that surround black people you will be saddenly mistaken. In a few more years there will be plenty of sterertypes to go around for
    mulitracial people then you can really feel like you have your own race then.
    I am a proud Creole woman and I too say that I am black ! What is the problem with that ? Marian Carey is her own woman and does not have to say she is hispanic . She can say she is hispanic, white and black. Just because she happens to favor her black culture does not make her mindless and stupid. Stop viewing black culture only based on the stupid crap you in on TV - those are exploited images. There are many intelligent, wealthy, diginfied black people so Mariah has every reason to want to be apart of this culture. As well Essence magazine is mainly a black magazine so of
    course they are going to still view her as a black woman! I applaude them for that by
    not ignoring her as black still just because she looks more white.

    Posted 07 Jun 2005 at 9:45 am ¶

32. Watdahll wrote:

    Excuse me, but aren’t most black Americans mixed race anyway?

    So why the mixed race movement, again? I guess all black folks should join in.

    Has anyone saw the family of Essie Mae, good ol’ Storm Thurman’s daughter? She is biracial and all of her kids and grandkids look like black Americans.

    Posted 07 Jun 2005 at 9:51 am ¶

33. Tee wrote:

    Yes, I saw Essie Mae’s family in Ebony when they did a story on her. They certainly look like “regular” old black people to me. She has a very amazing story.

    Many people do not know this, but Cedric the Entertainer’s grandmother was white- Irish. His aunt (his mom’s sis) was my professor in graduate school and she brought us pictures and discussed her family with us. The aunt is a medium brown skin woman and Cedric’s mother is light skin . Now look how dark Cedric is. You would never believe he had a white grandmother. Cindy Herron ( the tall one) from En Vogue’s mother is German - look at her- you can’t see biracial anywhere in her. Nicole Ritchie looks every bit the white girl but she readily tells people she is black. We cannot tell people what culture to claim just because they look a certain way.
    That is their business and their perogative.

    Posted 07 Jun 2005 at 1:30 pm ¶

34. fleu wrote:

    weird. Im black and I always thought Mariah Carey was too….
    I think somebody told me she was black years ago, and it just stuck. anyway, there are tons of black people who dont necessarily “look” black.

    Posted 10 Jun 2005 at 8:50 am ¶

35. Tori wrote:

    I CONSIDER MARIAH MY SISTA. YES SHE IS A BLACK WOMAN IN MY EYES, AS WELL AS A LATINA, AND A IRISH WOMAN. JUST BECAUSE SHE IS WHITE IN SKIN TONE DOES NOT MAKE HER LESS BLACK. I AM BIRACIAL( BLACK/SCOTTISH) AS WELL , I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN GRASP ALL YOU ARE AND STILL PREFER A PARTICULAR CULTURE. I AM A BLACK MAN BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME ANY LESS OF A SCOTTISH MAN. I THINK IF WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM FORCING SOMEONE TO PICK A RACE THEN WE NEED NOT TRY TO FORCE A PERSON TO SAY THEY ARE BIRACIAL, MULTIRACIAL OR MIXED JUST TO MAKE THE MULTIRACIAL MOVEMENT SEEMS MORE RELEVANT. TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT.

    Posted 10 Jun 2005 at 2:26 pm ¶

36. Travis wrote:

    I didn’t know she even had any black in her until I heard it. She looks all white, with possibly a little hispanic.

    The amount of black in her must be pretty small because her mom is very white and her dad does not even look black.

    Tiger woods is only about 20 to 25percent black and he looks far more black than she does.

    Then again you basically never see a true black women like the ones from Africa on T.V., but instead mulattos who call themselves black instead of white. Even though the average black person is almost 20 percent white. So, when you mix a black and a white you usually get about 60 percent white, 40 percent black; like Halle Berry.

    Posted 11 Jun 2005 at 1:26 pm ¶

37. Courtney wrote:

    even though i think mariah is mixed she still consider herself black because black is the dominic gene.

    Posted 15 Jun 2005 at 2:10 pm ¶

38. arlana wrote:

    4get all this crap about ppl being mixed dang yall taken it too far, just respect mariah for who and wat she is and let her be wat she wants to be aint nothing wrong wit that we only got one life to live might as well enjoy it being somebody instead of nobody right?……..

    Posted 16 Jun 2005 at 1:59 am ¶

39. Anonymous wrote:

    Im half black and Half Hispanic and I consider myself both. Mariah is a good person let her be who and what she wants to be. Im proud of both my latin and black family so it doesn’t matter.

    Posted 20 Jun 2005 at 12:51 am ¶

40. Anonymous wrote:

    i agree with tee im half colombian you couldn’t tell i was by looking at me. hispanics what are we supposed to be brown skinned and always be called mexican? im half black too. Mariah is hispanic too Venezuelans, Colombians, Panamanians, Dominicans, Brazilians, Belizans and Some Puerto Ricans are pretty much the same as black. Think about it, way back in history some blacks escaped slavery in the W. Indies and spread all over the Carribean area. That is why some of us colombians and Venezuelans look black. But we aren’t excepted as black. If Mariah’s Venezuelan, Black, Indian, White, what ever, we should let her decide on what she considers herself, cause there isn’t a thing we can do.

    Posted 20 Jun 2005 at 12:59 am ¶

41. dcmc wrote:

    I agree with Tee. Looking “white” called it doesn’t make Mariah less black. And I don’t understand ppl accused her for not being “black” enough whenever she straightens hair or dresses in a certain way while Halle Berry can do the same things and still being considered all black. I think Mariah is crucified often times for her looks. Artists like Amerie or Kelis have no problem at all identifying themselves as “blacks”.

    And it’s interesting that from what I saw on TV Beyonce’s mother looked half-white so does America’s Next Top Model’s Toccara’s mother and Yaya’s father, and they never identified themselves as “mixed”.

    Posted 23 Jun 2005 at 9:19 pm ¶

42. Anonymous wrote:

    who cares what race mariah is. shes gorgeous, and can sing… she can entertain us and isnt that all you need in the music bizz? why do people make such a big deal out of race. i agree with tori, whats the point in making someone choose a race, if you really think about it anyways then most people are biracial, im not sayin everyone is black and white, but most people are a mix of 2 or more races.

    Posted 27 Jun 2005 at 8:15 am ¶

43. Anonymous wrote:

    i dont agree with courney at all. you said that she should consider herself black. no shes white as well. she should consider herself what she is. and thats biracial.

    Posted 27 Jun 2005 at 8:17 am ¶

44. Anonymous wrote:

    I would like all of you who read this to take mental note. When you take black paint and mix it with white paint it turns gray. The paint is NO LONGER WHITE!!!!!! Also, if you mix all the colors in the world together it is black! Personally, I believe that any one with black in them is black.
    If Mariah Carey wants to acknowledge her blackness why is America acting so stupid about!
    One thing that I love about the black race - in general- is that blacks come in a variety of skintones. That is why being black has been characterized by a number of things. The main thing being our heritage and past. Mariah Carey is black because she shares our ROOTS.

    Posted 28 Jun 2005 at 6:30 pm ¶

45. LeeAnne Averyheart wrote:

    >>>>>Black genes over dominate white genes, so any one with I dont know some random number…..15% of black in them, can have overwhelming black features.< <<

    thats not true when to people of differant races have a child the result is incomplete dominance . thats when neither of them dominate .
    so when 2 people of differant races have a child they will turn out a nice blend of both white and black features. dont belive me think i am talking crap ? click here>>>>>>>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=incomplete+dominance+and+race&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1

    Posted 28 Jun 2005 at 8:32 pm ¶

46. Anonymous wrote:

    I TOTALLY agree with dcmc!!!!!

    Posted 29 Jun 2005 at 8:49 am ¶

47. Fascinated wrote:

    This is an amazing discussion. Interesting becuase the opinions are very strong. Frightening because of the misinformation being shared. I suppose that’s the blessing and the curse of the internet. I applaud Tee for breaking it down so to speak. One day I hope America learns the difference between race and culture. People of who have a racially indegenous background that can be traced to Africa (described as Negroid by sociologist) were sold as slaves all over Europe, North America, South America, and the Carribean from the 1600’s through the early 1800’s. Slavery ended sooner in some places than others of course. The decendents of those people are alive and well some of them look like Vanessa Williams (former Miss America) and some like Missy Elliot as well as everything else in between. Blackness or Nego-ness outside of Africa is hard to define sometimes. America has defined anyone with a black ancestor as black, still many mixed-race and fair skinned blacks have passed for white for years especially after the slaves were emancipated–it was easier. Are mixed race people (black/white) black or white…I think they get to choose–nobody can force them either way. If they “look black” then they don’t have as much of choice…society chooses. Mariah Carey is whatever she wants to be–her choice. Also, please understand Hispanic is a culture it is not a race. Hispanic people come in all flavors, black, brown, yellow and red. Hispanic people share a culture. According to anthropologist there are three races (Negroid, Mongoloid, and Caucausoid), however there are thousands of ethnic and cultural groups on planet earth. Google these terms, take a social sciences class on some of these issues—racial identity, racial groups, history of slavey in the americas, etc.

    Posted 29 Jun 2005 at 3:27 pm ¶

48. Anonymous wrote:

    mommy

    Posted 30 Jun 2005 at 10:59 pm ¶

49. anonymous wrote:

    mariah carey does have the right to call herself what she wants. she has always considered herself mixed race for everyone who says that her being half white does not make her any less black it does not make her any less white or hispanic either, she also said that because of her part hispanic heritage people have said that one quarter hispanic was not alot. she stated that she maybe be only one quarter hispanic but it is a strong quarter. i read that quote from her in an article three years ago when she had been seeing luis miguel at that time i think she was in venezuela she wanted to do research on her hispanic heritage and she talked about her hispanic grandma named margarita who was with a man name carey which was mariah fathers father. also i read that mariahs father fathers name was ricardo nunez but when he came to america he changed it to richard carey.

    Posted 01 Jul 2005 at 6:37 pm ¶

50. mariella wrote:

    mariah carey is not black. no she is not. if she does not have to say she is hispanic then she does not have to say she is black either. she is a half white afro hispanic lady calling her black does not make her any less mixed race.

    Posted 01 Jul 2005 at 6:46 pm ¶

51. Keshaisright wrote:

    Well, Mariah is mixed. And I think it’s stupid to say that Mariah can say she is waht she wants, because that is lying. She can say she’s black but saying so is not the whole truth. If that’s the case I can go around saying I’m White when I’m full blown Black. that would make me look ridiculous. Most people say that you are what your daddy is. I think Mariah probaly just says whatever because she’s tired of people asking her, I mean she said she had to deal with it her whole life. But I think that if she had to say something she should say she’s mixed, because thats the truth. saying your mixed isn’t saying what you are mixed with. thats best

    Posted 04 Jul 2005 at 12:52 am ¶

52. CASA_NOVa wrote:

    IIGHT ONE THING MARIAH”S FATHER IS HALF VENUESALIAN AND BLACK HE”S MIXED TOO AND HER MOM IS WHITE SO BASICALLY SHE IS COMPLETELY MIXED AND HER DAD HAS WHITE IN HIM TOO CAUSE VENUESALIANS HAVE PORTUAGEES IN THEM, SO THATS WHY SHE LOOKS WHITE………………..DATS ALL I GOT TO SAY SHE IS NOT BLACK SHE IS COMPLETELY MIXED

    Posted 05 Jul 2005 at 11:05 pm ¶

53. dcmc wrote:

    Poor Mariah, she never once said that she was “fully black”, at least publiclly. She has always stated that she was mixed or multiracial or bi-racial ever since the very beginning of her career.(the ‘91 oprah show for example)

    And as I said above, Halle Berry never have to or need to say she is “bi-racial” etc. But when it comes to Mariah there are always someone accusing her “lack of blackness” as though her is not entitled to even be considered black.

    Posted 08 Jul 2005 at 4:10 am ¶

54. Trace wrote:

    Ok. I hope this helps you guys out. Mariah has explained her heritage in an interview that I’ve just watched. She made it pretty easy for me to understand:

    Her mother is white.
    Her paternal grandfather was half black and half Hispanic, which means her father was quarter Hispanic and 3 quarters black.

    That makes her half white. Acute (less than a quarter) Hispanic and the rest black.

    Posted 13 Jul 2005 at 12:52 pm ¶

55. April wrote:

    Lots of misinformation about Mariah. Mariah’s father (Alfred) was born and raised in Harlem. His father (Roberto) immigrated from Venezuela when he was around 12 years old. His last name was Nunez. He was forced to change it, and he choose Carey. There is a picture of him floating around. Her father’s mother was African American from Louisana.

    Mariah is still to this day learning more about her family history. It helps that Mariah and her father didn’t have much contact when she was younger, and Alfred was estranged from his father when his parents got a divorce when he was a kid until like six months before he (Roberto) died in 1994. Mariah didn’t meet her grandfather until she was seven, and up until then had thought he was Cuban.

    Here are two quotes from Mariah from a 2003 Latina magazine article:

    1. Recently, through a series of events that combined love, success, and tragedy, Mariah began to search for her Venezuelan roots and, ultimately, her answers to these questions. “My father was mostly African American, and his father was Venezuelan. But we don’t know if he was Venezuelan and white or Venezuelan and black,” Mariah says of the twisting branches of her father’s family tree. “We’re confused.”

    2. Growing up in Harlem and the Bronx, New York, Alfred Roy identified more with his African American side. “But as he got older,” Mariah recounts, “he wanted to investigate more of every aspect of what he was. That’s when he started on his quest to trace his roots.” It was a daunting project from the start. “My father just told me a story this past year,” Mariah says. “We had always thought that ‘Carey’ was a name that my grandfather made up. But what we found out is that my great-grandmother Margarita Nunez was with a man named Carey. They weren’t married, but my grandfather took his name because he was actually his father.” Adding to the mystery was Mr. Carey’s lineage: “Apparently he had red hair and freckles, but he could’ve been black or white. We just don’t know.”

    Posted 27 Jul 2005 at 2:28 pm ¶

56. Dan wrote:

    Speaking as a biracial person who has grown up in a predominately white environment, I think it is stupid for someone to try and categorize mixed individuals as any one group. My father is from Nigeria, my mother is from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and is 50% Polish and 50% German. When I am asked what my race is I proudly break it down that I am mixed…I would never claim to be completely black as to disregard my white heritage. And furthermore I have never found it a problem being accepted by either of the two communities (meaning “whites” or “blacks”). I have friends of all different races, family members of all different descents and I think it is stupid and repressive to keep fighting about race. Does it matter what your skin color is, really? We all look the same on the inside…so why don’t we all move on as the same species and focus our attention on more important issues.

    Posted 28 Jul 2005 at 2:53 pm ¶

57. rowina wrote:

    somebody on here called mariah carey white. yeah well so what why is there a problem with that if so then too bad. she is half white so it is no big deal to call her white if she can be called black or hispanic then she can be called white.

    Posted 02 Aug 2005 at 10:23 pm ¶

58. Delah wrote:

    Mriah, like the majority of African Americans is multi-racial. it does not matter what she considers herslef. She is judged by her musci and it is played on more Black stations that Caucasian or Hispanic stations. Halle Berry acknowledges her white mother and she is proud of her. Alicia Keys acknowledges her white mother. Both feel comfortable with what they are doing. We are all created in the image of God and we must remember that. In the end we are judged by the content of our character. What ever a person chooses to call themselves is between them and God. Let us not jedge them.

    Posted 03 Aug 2005 at 4:55 pm ¶

59. magdelena wrote:

    mariah carey is a half white woman.

    Posted 06 Aug 2005 at 6:46 pm ¶

60. magdelena wrote:

    how come when teena maries music came on black radio stations and she worked with black music artists she was not labeled as white trying to be black but mariah carey was. so before there was mariah carey there was teena marie.

    Posted 06 Aug 2005 at 6:49 pm ¶

61. magdelena wrote:

    i agree that people are the same in gods eyes but why should mixed race people like mariah carey have to choose one single race to identify just to stoop to society useless level just because mixed race people consider themselves mixed does not mean they have self hate or are in denial..

    Posted 06 Aug 2005 at 6:51 pm ¶

62. Brittany wrote:

    Mariah Carey is Irish, Black, and Venezuelan!!! She looks white but you can tell she’s not!! Just look at her nose and lips!!! She has never denied her mixed ancestry but yet I do not think she acknowledges it either. I wonder if she will deal with a black guy!!!

    Posted 11 Aug 2005 at 2:47 am ¶

63. Jennifer wrote:

    Okay people….lets settle this once and for all….what is the big deal about whether a person is black, white, hispanic, or asian…why are we lowering ourselves back to the 1950’s…personally i thought that we were moving foward from this rasism…..we do NOT need to use the term MULATTO to describe an interracial person….that word comes from a time filled with rasicm…and to say that a mixed person is not pure, that is bullshit….basically that stems back to the 1950’s again…when whites were thought to be the most pure…we need to come together and realize that our barriers can come down if we stop placing unneeded labels on one another…..

    Posted 11 Aug 2005 at 3:42 pm ¶

64. rowena wrote:

    what do you mean mariah carey is not white. yes she is. she is just not all white she is a half white r and b singer.

    Posted 12 Aug 2005 at 6:48 pm ¶

65. anonymous wrote:

    what do you mean mariah carey is not white. yes she is, just because she is part black does not mean that she is not white too. she is white too. and just because people are whatever their fathers are that does not mean that they are not their mothers race as well. no it does not mean that. people are some of their mothers race as well and people have every right to identify with their mothers race as well. just because you identify with your mothers race does not mean that you are in denial and are breaking the law. where is it written that you can not identify with your mothers race. yes you can. who are others to tell us what we are? who is society to tell us what we are? society did not cause our birth and put us in the world. and society did not make us, so therefore mixed race people dont have to have societys permission to identify with both parents races and because society considers every person who is either half black or part black does that mean that mixed race people are supposed to back down and live up to societys expectations. so if you are mixed and you have some black in you even though you may also be part hispanic or white or indian or asian and society calls you one single race only, does that mean that you should just leave it at that. yeah right, no i dont believe so.

    Posted 13 Aug 2005 at 6:39 pm ¶

66. anonymous wrote:

    as for mariah carey people calling her black they are just trying to make her black . i think the reason people call her black because that is what they want her to be. calling her black does make people who call her white not continue to call her white. it seems that more people calk her black than. i read some where that some said she was half black part hispanic and part white. that is incorrect, because she is half white part hispanic and part black. i read an article on her where she said she could not be one out of three things and another article on her where she said that she thinks people would like her to say she is only black and that’s it but she is not. i also read an article on her where someone said that mariah carey denies her real ethnicity she claims to be half black when everybody knows that she is really half white and hispanic. so i guess some people also think mariah carey has issues with being white and hispanic. there where also articles on her where people called her a half white slut and then white trailer trash pop singer and then stupid white trash slut even though she is only half white. these articles stated “any casting agent or director should know that you do not ever throw an egotistical self absorbed white trailor trash pop singer like mariah carey in with acting” and then another article said “can you say half white slut” referring to miss mariah carey. and then an article from last year on mariah said “only in america can a stupid white trash slut like her can become a millionaire” i think the reason why somebody called her that is because they are just jealous of her.

    Posted 13 Aug 2005 at 6:52 pm ¶

67. ramona wrote:

    mariah carey is a mixed race woman she has always made it clear. some people think mariah carey should be called black while others think she should be called white.
    if it is okay to call mariah carey black then it is okay to call her white. just because she doesnt have blue green gray or light brown eyes with naturally blonde or light brown or redhair and pale skin does not mean that she is not white. she is white but half. instead os sying she is not white it makes more sense to say she is not all white just like she is not black but mixed race.

    Posted 14 Aug 2005 at 6:21 pm ¶

68. rolette wrote:

    so just because society has a one drop rule does that mean that mixed race people are supposed to just back down and identify with how society sees them. yeah right. mixed race people have every right to identify with being more than one race.

    Posted 20 Aug 2005 at 6:29 pm ¶

69. eliza wrote:

    mariah carey is not a light skinned black woman, she is hispanic and white with black.
    she is more than just black.

    Posted 20 Aug 2005 at 6:45 pm ¶

70. lataneesha wrote:

    just remember black people were called colour people because they come in all colours - as white as snow or as dark as the sky, black people were not called black because of dark skin! hell no!! haven’t u people seen very fair skinned blacks - we come from dark mysterious africa thats why we are called black, mariah carey knows her race, just like everybody else - she got picked on because of narrow minded ignorant ppl, same thing with michael jackson, he has the vitiligo skin disorder and ppl pick on him saying he is no longer black perrleeeasee!

    Posted 21 Aug 2005 at 10:08 am ¶

71. lydia wrote:

    just because mixed race americans identify themselves as more than one race does not make them sinners. i am so sick and tired of people putting down mixed race people and ragging on them and condemning them for not calling themselves one race. people act like mixed race people who call themselves one single race are better than mixed race people who call themselves more than one race. THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND MIXED RACE PEOPLE WHO CALL THEMSELVES ONE SINGLE RACE. NO IT DOES NOT. there is nothing wrong with mixed race people calling themselves more than one race . and mariah carey does not need society or the music industries or the medias or anyones approval or permission to call herself white. she has a right to her white heirtage as well as her hispanic black heritage. stop picking on and persecuting mixed race people for call themselves more than one race it is not ok because what that is saying is that their parents made a mistake by bringing them in the world.

    Posted 10 Sep 2005 at 6:47 pm ¶

72. gigi wrote:

    i support mixed race people who consider themselves all the race they are.
    however i dont support mixed race people who consider themselves one race because they think they have to or they think they have to please society because what they are doing is holding on to the one drop rule.

    Posted 10 Sep 2005 at 6:51 pm ¶

73. gena wrote:

    people who call mariah carey black are just passing mariah carey off black. she is no more black than white or hispanic. she is a caucasoid black hispanic lady.

    Posted 28 Sep 2005 at 9:59 pm ¶

74. dienna wrote:

    why is mariah carey black and but white.

    Posted 17 Oct 2005 at 9:29 pm ¶

75. HB wrote:

    I will not discredit Mariah for her talent. You can’t take that away from her. But in one interview I read, she said that she would not admit her black heritage when she was younger. She would say her dark skin came from her italian heritage, totally omitting her blackness. When I read this, It really turned me off. I can’t embrace a person who deems black women like myself to be a source of “Shame” Being a black woman myself…, i’m sorry, I do not consider Mariah Carey a “Sista”

    Posted 18 Oct 2005 at 3:07 pm ¶

76. lee anne wrote:

    mariah carey is not african american. no she is not. the reason people call her black is because that is what they want her to be.

    Posted 19 Oct 2005 at 4:06 pm ¶

77. lola wrote:

    mariah carey is not italian. mariah carey is irish, half irish at that.

    Posted 19 Oct 2005 at 4:09 pm ¶

78. gennette wrote:

    mariah carey is not black trying to be white. mariah carey is ashamed of being white.

    Posted 19 Oct 2005 at 5:07 pm ¶

79. deidra wrote:

    why is mariah carey black and not white. what do you mean she is not white she is not black either. so now miss mariah carey is a mongrel belonging to no race.

    Posted 19 Oct 2005 at 5:09 pm ¶

80. tamera wrote:

    mariah carey is americas most misunderstood irish woman.

    Posted 19 Oct 2005 at 6:16 pm ¶

81. chelsa wrote:

    i bet if mariah careys father were white and her mother were black and hispanic or if her mom was black and her dad was white and hispanic people would call her white more than they would call her hispanic or black.

    Posted 20 Oct 2005 at 10:49 pm ¶

82. Kayla wrote:

    I really don’t think it matters what race she identifies with. She has a unique look created by God. Everyone born was suppose to be here. I am a white woman with a bi-racial child. His dad is from Kenya, Africa. He looks more black than white, however if you don’t look at the color of his skin, you can see some features he gets from me. People just look at the color of skin instead of what’s on the inside. It’s so sad to me that people are still arguing over race issues. At the same time, I am happy to see people not looking at the color and looking at the person within. I personally wouldn’t see anything wrong with my son considering himself black instead of mixed because he is black. Yes he is white as well, but society doesn’t see it that way. That’s just the way it is. I hope he sees the beauty in both black and white people.

    Posted 23 Oct 2005 at 10:53 am ¶

83. antonia wrote:

    mariah carey is not white. yeah right mariah carey is not white MY BUTT. mariah carey is white as miss teena marie.

    Posted 24 Oct 2005 at 5:18 pm ¶

84. vicki wrote:

    mariah once said in an interview that people can not fathom that she is irish black and venezuelan. so mariah carey is obviously iriblazuelan=irish black venezuelan or blirizuelan=blakc venezuelan and irish. so the reason people dont want to admit that mariah carey is also white just because she is not exactly moms favorite apple cinnamon pie.

    Posted 24 Oct 2005 at 5:25 pm ¶

85. joyride wrote:

    mariah is mixed race, black and white end of.

    Posted 30 Oct 2005 at 1:05 pm ¶

86. falicia wrote:

    mariah carey is a mongrel. and people call her black. mariah carey is black MY BUTT. mariah carey is not black. mariah carey is a venezuelan irish black mongrel.

    Posted 31 Oct 2005 at 5:21 pm ¶

87. farah wrote:

    mixed race people are the race of both parents and people always say that you are only your fathers race just because you are whatever your father is does not mean that you are not what your mother is no it does not. just because society does not see you as your mothers race does not mean that you should leave it at that. just because you identify with your mothers race does not mean that you are in denial and self hate no it does not. you have every right to consider yourself some of your mothers race yes you do. people are just as much their moms race as they are their dads race so stop denying it. but identifying with only one parents race is like saying the other parents race does not count or that you are not related to the other parent. i once read in an article on mixed race peoples racial identity that by the year 2050 every mothers descendant will have her racial identity for all time but also they say people of color will outnumber whites and hispanics will be the largest majority by 2050.

    Posted 31 Oct 2005 at 5:32 pm ¶

88. kee kee wrote:

    okay mariah carey is only half white. how’s that does that make everyone satisfied.

    Posted 31 Oct 2005 at 6:10 pm ¶

89. kee kee wrote:

    okay mariah carey is only half white. how’s that. does that make everyone satisfied.

    Posted 31 Oct 2005 at 6:10 pm ¶

90. melissa wrote:

    mariah carey is not african american. she has black in her but she is not black. it is only magazine articles and people on this site that call her black. she is not black or mulatto. she is mixed race. i think the reason why mixed race people are not considered white is because the white race is probably overcrowded by so many different nationalities.

    Posted 01 Nov 2005 at 9:41 pm ¶

91. lanier wrote:

    okay mariah carey is some black hows that. the reason black overpowers other nationalities is because black is the darkest of all colors and the darkest of night. it is just that mariah carey is not regular plain old black no she is not. she is just some black now does that make everyone happy.

    Posted 01 Nov 2005 at 9:49 pm ¶

92. nina wrote:

    mixed race people should fight for their rights to not be subjected to a monoracial label.
    mariah carey is not considered black she is just passed off for black.

    Posted 02 Nov 2005 at 5:12 pm ¶

93. natalie wrote:

    i bet if mariahs father was white and her mother was black or if her father were asian or indian and her mother was black people would not be giving her a hard time about being mixed race. why is it mixed race people who have white fathers and black mothers like gloria reuben, faith evans, lenny kravitz, bob marley, troy beyer, salli richardson, karyn parsons- the beautiful hillary banks on fresh prince of bel air and rae dawn chong( whose father tommy chong is eurasian chinese french irish and english she looks nothing like him), tia tamara and tawj mowry from sister sister in the 90’s. what i am saying is why is it nobody hassles them about not calling themselves black or identifies themselves as black, is it that people who have black mothers and white or asian or indian or hispanic fathers are excused from calling themselves black. not to be mean or rude or anything but that would seem racist sexist and discriminatory. i have seen how people talk trash and say stupid ignorant gibberish things about tiger woods and mariah carey for not calling themselves black. STOP PUTTING DOWN tiger woods and mariah carey for not calling themselves black tiger woods and mariah carey dont owe you people any favors and they dont have to justify themselves to you people or society. tiger woods and mariah carey are not wrong at all for calling themselves mixed race no they are not.

    Posted 02 Nov 2005 at 5:28 pm ¶

94. troy wrote:

    I am mixed race or capetonian colourd I have lived in Zimbabwe all my life my parents are both mixed race and so are there parents what I have noticed is black people will only call you one off them when they are a minority in Africa we faced a lot off racial hate from them in fact every time you would get in an argument with one they would tell us “go back to your country (meaning Britain) you don’t belong here” so in the end we moved to England and now that we are here the same blacks that also left Zimbabwe are now telling us to class our selves as theme and all the other blacks here are telling us the same thing

    Posted 03 Nov 2005 at 12:56 pm ¶

95. Carely wrote:

    who cares wat race she is? The woman has an absolutely phenomenal voice! We are all human! What difference does it make what colour we are? She can sing! She’s amazing- that’s all there is to it

    Posted 05 Nov 2005 at 3:05 pm ¶

96. sarah wrote:

    mariah carey is a pretty but misunderstood multipleracial woman. halfwhite part black and part hispanic that is not black. if somebody were 3/4’s black i would consider them black because 3/4’s is almost one whole. i do not believe that mixed race people should buckle under society’s pressure to identify as monoracial. mixed race people need to keep fighting for their rights to self identify such as join a mixed race awareness club and organization for people of mixed race descent because mixed race people are held back to identifying as solely monoracial. mixed race people should protest against it i suppose. mixed race people should not back down and simply identify as one single race only just to make everyone happy. besides black is not the only color in the world and neither is white. god made a rainbow he did not want just one color if he did he would have made one color but he did a very very very beautiful thing by creating a rainbow of colors. AS FOR YOU PEOPLE ON THIS SITE STOP HOLDING ON TO THE ONE DROP RULE. IT DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING ANYMORE. NO IT DOES NOT. THE ONE DROP RULE IS A RULE LEFT OVER FROM SLAVERY.

    Posted 05 Nov 2005 at 7:35 pm ¶

97. TANYA wrote:

    i bet if mariah carey married mellow man ace and they had children. their children would be only part white and mostly afro hispanic.

    Posted 05 Nov 2005 at 7:37 pm ¶

98. loraine wrote:

    mariah carey is a misunderstood tragic hispanic mulatto

    Posted 05 Nov 2005 at 7:50 pm ¶

99. CELIA wrote:

    MARIAH CAREY IS NOT A MISUNDERSTOOD BLACK WOMAN. SHE IS A MISUNDERSTOOD MONGREL.

    Posted 07 Nov 2005 at 3:03 pm ¶

100. soraya wrote:

     mariah carey is no black woman. mariah carey is mixed race. she was born mixed race and she has been mixed race all her life.

     Posted 07 Nov 2005 at 4:28 pm ¶

101. soraya wrote:

     mariah carey is mixed race, she has been mixed race all her life and she was born mixed race.

     Posted 07 Nov 2005 at 4:29 pm ¶

102. pauline wrote:

     mariah carey is a mixed race balladeer

     Posted 07 Nov 2005 at 4:29 pm ¶

103. soledad wrote:

     mariah carey could be the next sheila E.

     Posted 07 Nov 2005 at 5:25 pm ¶

104. soledad wrote:

     MARIAH CAREY CAN BE THE NEXT SHEILA E.

     Posted 07 Nov 2005 at 5:25 pm ¶

105. Becca wrote:

     Yea i think all that talk about Mariah Carey and how she is mixed should stop because it shouldn’t matter what race you are or How you look. I think what should matter is her personality and her music. Her music is great juss because she looks white and is really black/white/ and venezuelian doesnt really matter to me because im white/ and puerto rican and most people think im just white but they dont know my background or where my parents come from so they should just shut there mouths and stay out of my Buisness and thats what i think people should do about Mariah Carey because i could careless what she is i Still would LOVE to be like her or to meet her one day because her music is great and she is the most gorgeuos person i ever met!!!! SHUT YOUR MOUTHS ABOUT RACIAL COMMENTS!!

     Posted 08 Nov 2005 at 4:52 pm ¶

106. Becca wrote:

     YOU ALL NEED TO SHUT UP ABOUT MARIAH CAREY BECAUSE IT SHOULDNT MATTER THAT SHE IS MULTI-RACIAL BECAUSE SHE IS GORGEOUS AND HAS AN EXCELLENT VOICE. I KNOW WHERE SHE IS COMING FROM BECAUSE IM PUERTO RICAN AND IRISH AND MOST PEOPLE THINK IM JUST SOME WHITE GIRL AND I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD SHUT THERE MOUTHS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE WHAT THEY WANT TO BE SO LEARN HOW TO LEAVE THEM ALONE. MARIAH CAREY IS NOT A BAD PERSON BECAUSE SHE IS BLACK+WHITE+AND VENEZUELIAN I THINK IT MAKES HER A MORE UNIQUE PERSON BECAUSE SHE HAS MORE THAN ONE CULTURE IN HER WHICH MAKES HER EXPERIMENT DIFFERENT THINGS THAN OTHER PEOPLE. PEOPLE JUST NEED TO MIND THERE OWN DAMN BUISNESS AND LEAVE MIMI ALONE

     Posted 08 Nov 2005 at 5:01 pm ¶

107. pauletta wrote:

     mariah carey is a mixed race woman a beautiful voice, she should not just be black just to sell records. she is mistakely labeled black. and no mariah carey is not as black as anyone else who is full blooded black. she is only part black. but she is also hispanic and white.

     Posted 09 Nov 2005 at 6:13 pm ¶

108. brown skin wrote:

     I never thought mariah was black. At first I just thought she was a white girl who could sing, I still think that! and the only reason why her ethnicity is in question is because she ain’t ever been real about it. Lets take her very first album (vision of Love) I bought that album and her sound was everything but hip hop and r&b but that was cool because she could sing. but then she started to struggle with how she wanted to be identified and every album after that was straight hip hop and r&b, during this time her ethnicity was in question, everyone was asking the question what is she? the majority was viewing mariah as black based on the type of music she was doing and she wasn’t saying anything different because I saw her do interviews at that time which she was only claiming black, I was like whoa, I mean I thought at that time she could have at least claim to be biracial, because she looked more along those lines.but she wanted to appeal to a certain audience and that’s when she became the so called sista. I always thought she was someone trying to get in where she could fit in, that’s why she gets beat up about it. Halle Berry has always said she was black, and that was it, it was never a mystery. I have seen mariah do interviews for a mainstream audience and she is well herself I guess, but then I have seen her interviews geared towards black folks and her whole personality changed, she was straight black, if I may. I honestly think that she is one of those who’s trying to use this to her advantage. One of the earlier posters posted that she saw mariah in an interview where she stated at one point she wouldn’t even claim her black heritage, I saw that same interview and immediately I started to think if you couldn’t claim us then why your doing now. She ain’t real ya’ll, she ain’t real. she will use her heritage to her advantage if she can i.e her album cover (Mimi) I’ve never known her to be that brown. I don’t feel sorry for her, she knows exactly what she’s doing. If she wanted to appeal to a predominantly white audience she would go back to doing albums like her first one. If she wanted to appeal to more of an hispanic audience she would go back to dating luis and she would say things like and I quote “I’m more hispanic than anything else” yes she has made that comment to, but only when it seemed to be convenient she was dating luis at the time. It’s a shame, but there are people out there who are simply trying to profit and if that means playing the race card then let the games begin. Mariah really does need to check herself, she knows exactly what she’s doing.

     Posted 10 Nov 2005 at 8:55 pm ¶

109. mindy wrote:

     somebody on here please tell me something mellow man ace came out the same time as mariah carey, so what if she married him would that probably make her feel satisfied because i once read that she wanted to get in touch with her hispanic heritage. she wanted to do research on it about 3 years ago before she broke up with luiz miguel and you right people should shut up about race they should also shut their damn funky behines mouth up about mixed race people running from their blackness if you people dont like mixed race people claiming more than one race then why dont you go fall off a bridge and drown to damn doggone death and lay off mixed race people claiming more than one race there is nothing wrong with claiming more than one race and dont tell me there is because there is not no there is not .

     Posted 10 Nov 2005 at 11:52 pm ¶

110. seymone wrote:

     Ceila, you need to shut your mouth! Mariah is the most misunderstood BLACK woman. Just because she looks white and hispanic, doesn’t mean she is mostly white and hispanic. She does not act black, she is black. Maybe not all the way, but she is. She can call herself what she wants. She never kept saying she was black. All she ever said about her race is that she was confused and unsure of what she was and why. All she said was it was hard for her being different. It’s not her fault either because the press and interviewers asked her these questions. She never brought it up. She said she was mixed, never specifically said i am black. I don’t see what the problem is about her race. She said she was black,irish, and hispanic.
     Why do so many people base things on race. It’s annoying. Why do people care. She is one of the best artists in history. She very beautiful and talented. All you haters out there screw you. Everyone has something in there closet. So leave her alone.

     Posted 11 Nov 2005 at 2:32 pm ¶

111. mariela wrote:

     mariah carey is not a misunderstood black woman no she is not.

     Posted 14 Nov 2005 at 4:48 pm ¶

112. celia wrote:

     no i will not shut up dont ever tell me to shut up i wont have that no i wont.
     and no mariah carey is not black no she is not. she is mixed like she says
     you just ask her and she will tell you she is mixed race. she is not black i never read one article where she called herself black only. she is not black no she is not. she just has black in her. just because she is part black does not mean that she is not white and hispanic. she is white and hispanic.
     why does everyone on here act like her being part black is more important than her being hispanic and white.

     Posted 14 Nov 2005 at 4:54 pm ¶

113. maia wrote:

     misunderstood irish woman. oh really.

     Posted 14 Nov 2005 at 6:59 pm ¶

114. maia wrote:

     mairah carey misunderstood irish woman oh yeah so what else is new.

     Posted 14 Nov 2005 at 7:00 pm ¶

115. mariela wrote:

     get over it mariah carey is white with a bit of hispanic.

     Posted 14 Nov 2005 at 7:01 pm ¶

116. celia wrote:

     misunderstood black woman nothing. misunderstood black woman my butt. she is not black she is white and venezuelan i see nothing black on her. when somebody on here called mariah carey hispanic they did not get corrected, but the minute you call mariah carey white, people start shooting their damn mouth off correcting you. well not thank you. i will call mariah white anytime i damn please, there are people on other message boards that call mariah white they said they dont care if she is not all but half. what are any of you going to do shoot me. she is not black so get over it. and dont be telling me to shut up no i wont shut up. i am not shutting up i have a right to my opinion. need to shut your mouth my butt.
     dont tell me to shut up i wont have it. so knock that off shit dammit.

     Posted 14 Nov 2005 at 7:12 pm ¶

117. celia wrote:

     okay mariah is a misunderstood mixed race woman. now how’s that.
     is that comment better. is everyone freakin happy now. jesus christ.

     Posted 14 Nov 2005 at 7:14 pm ¶

118. mariela wrote:

     what if mariah carey were middle eastern. then would she have an identity crisis?

     Posted 16 Nov 2005 at 5:40 pm ¶

119. VIVIAN wrote:

     MARIAH CAREY IS A QUADROON.

     Posted 16 Nov 2005 at 7:12 pm ¶

120. VIVIAN wrote:

     MARIAH CAREY IS A QUADROON.

     Posted 16 Nov 2005 at 7:14 pm ¶

121. saline wrote:

     mariah carey is a quadroon iritina=irish latina.

     Posted 17 Nov 2005 at 10:16 pm ¶

122. michael miller wrote:

     I THINK MARIAH CAREY IS MIXED AND SHE IS BECAUSE HER HAIR HER CUTENESS ONLY A MIXED GIRL WILL LOOK LIKE THAT

     Posted 18 Nov 2005 at 3:46 pm ¶

123. michael wrote:

     U NEVER WILL SEE A WHITE GIRL LOOK LIKE LIKE THAT U WILL SEE A MIXED GIRL AND A WHITE GIRL WILL NEVER SING LIKE THAT MARIH HAS BEEN THE BEST SINCE 1990 MARIAH CAREY IS BLACK AND WHITE BECAUSE SHE SINGS HIGH AND LOW A BLACK PERSON WILL SING HIGH A WHIT WILL SING LOW PLUS SHE IS TO CUTE AND BETUIFUL TO BE WHTE SO SHE IS BLACK AND WHITE SHE EVEN LOOKS LIKE IT

     Posted 18 Nov 2005 at 3:52 pm ¶

124. michael wrote:

     MICHELLE FIRST MARIAH CAREY HAIR IS REALLY BLACK AND U THINK ALL HER VIDEOS SUCK U ARE WRONG IF THEY DID SHE WOULDN`T BE THE BEST ARTIST OUT NOW THANK U BITCH

     Posted 18 Nov 2005 at 4:01 pm ¶

125. kellie wrote:

     mariah carey is a misunderstood mixed race mutt. a mutt is what she calls herself.

     Posted 18 Nov 2005 at 5:00 pm ¶

126. dcmc wrote:

     I cannot believe some of the posters here have so much hate towards Mariah. I think she is being critized like this just because her skin is not dark enough and she’s not acting like a ghetto mixed-race gril at all times. ppl cannot understand what she was comin’ from; nowadays nearly all teens and some grown-ups of all races other than black act “black” just to be cool or have fun or make a profit(Eminem), and when Mariah “keeps it real” for 2 seconds on BET or VIBE she is considered by some “tryin’ to sell records to a certain audience” or “claiming black by convenience”?!!…even though this girl has real black enthnicity in her. I don’t know what she has done to deserve such unfairness, apparently she can’t be herself, she can’t be versitle or multi-dimensioned, she has to choose a side like Halle Berry or whoever else all the way thru to be considered as a “sista”. I wonder how those ppl would react when Ms Berry talks “white talk” or be whatever “white” is supposed to mean at an Oscar party, is she “betrayin’ her own” or “representing the best”?

     I am starting to realize what she meant when she said ppl freaked out when they can’t put her in a box n stereotype her. She is once again subjected to this kind of thinking right here. Jeez she just wanna be to treated as a person, a human being…like we all do.

     Posted 20 Nov 2005 at 10:51 am ¶

127. dcmc wrote:

     I cannot believe some of the posters here have so much hate towards Mariah. I think she is being critized like this just because her skin is not dark enough and she’s not acting like a ghetto mixed-race gril at all times. ppl cannot understand what she was comin’ from; nowadays nearly all teens and some grown-ups of all races other than black act “black” just to be cool or have fun or make a profit(Eminem), and when Mariah “keeps it real” for 2 seconds on BET or VIBE she is considered by some “tryin’ to sell records to a certain audience” or “claiming black by convenience”?!!…even though this girl has real black enthnicity in her. I don’t know what she has done to deserve such unfairness, apparently she can’t be herself, she can’t be versitle or multi-dimensioned, she has to choose a side like Halle Berry or whoever else all the way thru to be considered as a “sista”. I wonder how those ppl would react when Ms Berry talks “white talk” or be whatever “white” is supposed to mean at an Oscar party, is she “betrayin’ her own” or “representing the best”?

     I am starting to realize what she meant when she said ppl freaked out when they can’t put her in a box n stereotype her. She is once again subjected to this kind of thinking right here. Jeez she just wanna be to treated as a person, a human being…like we all do.

     Posted 21 Nov 2005 at 2:58 am ¶

128. dee wrote:

     mariah carey is a tragic hispanic mulatto

     Posted 21 Nov 2005 at 6:21 pm ¶

129. joyce anne wrote:

     mariah carey is not a high yellow woman. she is not light skinned black. since she is half white and hispanic with black she is light skinned anyway.

     Posted 21 Nov 2005 at 6:24 pm ¶

130. Anonymous wrote:

     I can not believe these posts. even after tee and brown skin clarified everything you still have people who are posting whether or not they think that mariah is black or white. who gives a damn about what she is.

     Posted 27 Nov 2005 at 2:48 am ¶

131. cyndi wrote:

     mariah carey is not not to pretty to be white or black. some people say such dumb rambly things.

     Posted 28 Nov 2005 at 3:19 pm ¶

132. cyndi wrote:

     who gives a damb about what mariah is? well the media and society obviously does since they keep saying she is black but hardly ever says she is white. you people must realize we live in a color conscious world and that how people see us and how we see our selves will continue i guess that is how it will always be some people will call you one race and some will call you another i just dont care for that you are what society says you are and leave it at that, mixed race people do not have to follow along with that no they dont.

     Posted 28 Nov 2005 at 3:23 pm ¶

133. amica wrote:

     Mariah is a BIMBO!That’s what she is!How can she call herself black when she’s only25% black???C’mon Mariah wake up!You are of MIXED RACE that’s what u are.I know that she has struggled with her race all of her life but she should , by now know what she is.I mean she is after all 35plus for gods sake!!Somebody said that she looks mediterranian,oh no!I’m mediterranian and she does not look like us.She has latin features,don’t u ppl think so?

     Posted 29 Nov 2005 at 6:40 pm ¶

134. BOOKWORM wrote:

     These threads are truly hilarious…I didn’t know that there are so many urban, local genealogists’…Nevertheless, as I was swiftly made to understand as a youth, “If you have a DROP of “African BLOOD”, you are irrefutably black; derived from such writings of W.E.B Dubois s and Booker T. Washington… With that said, MC is black in my mind, conversely, I don’t think her” STRUGGLE???” warranted a showcase in essence magazine, but Americans are obsessed with the celebrity life…lol… Lastly, I don’t think she and other celebrities should make broad sweeping generalizations related to race and or the desires of an entire group of people…i.e. blacks; we are all individuals no matter our ethnic breakdown …

     Posted 30 Nov 2005 at 3:54 pm ¶

135. MICHAELA wrote:

     I THINK MARIAH HAS ISSUES WITH HER WHITE HISPANIC HERITAGE BECAUSE I READ SOMEWHERE THAT MARIAH CAREY DENIES HER REAL ETHNICITY SHE CLAIMS TO BE HALF BLACK WHEN EVERYONE KNOWS THAT SHE IS REALLY HALF WHITE AND HISPANIC. OKAY SO NOW MARIAH CAREY WANTS TO BE MORE BLACK THAN WHITE AND LATINA.

     Posted 01 Dec 2005 at 11:52 pm ¶

136. oskar lakshman wrote:

     whatever her race, her beautiful voice more than that ,,,,,,,,,,,,

     Posted 02 Dec 2005 at 4:32 pm ¶

137. BLove wrote:

     Mariah is what I consider to be…….BLACK. Most people, (white people esp.), don’t want to comprehend that because deep down they can’t and don’t want to see a “self-proclaimed” Black R&B singer as successful as she is!
     I don’t even know where this hispanic stuff is coming from. During the slave trade, Africans had settled on islands and countries all over the world. People from Trinidad, Jamaica,Guyana and other islands in the Caribbean still don’t know their origins. In addition, WHAT THE HELL do you mean her father doesn’t look black. Y’all are blind. I believe Mariah is embracing her father’s side more because she was most accepted that way. Think about it. Who were her worst critics? Who did she have the most trouble from growing up? As for the Comment made by Jermaine Dupri, “I didn’t know she was mixed. But after hanging out with her I realized she listens to hip-hop all day long.”, he’s referring to when he first met her, back in the 90s when mixed artists had just started entering the business. When y’all say that you listen to hip hop or r&b, you probably wouldn’t have then. There was only a little percent of white people who listened to those genres(including Marky Mark, and Vanilla Ice). I’m sure you can’t name a song from marvin gaye, al green, earth wind and fire, or ottis redding even today without searching for some on Google! Also with the way her hair was back then, and with that low, harmonic voice I’d have trouble thinking she was white, as JD did.
     For those who said it’s wrong to celebrate and classify yourself of one race, if you’re mixed, you guys should come to where I’m from and see all the white and hispanic people who claim they are black even if they’re pure, because they grew up with, and were practically raised by, Black people. Now, Mariah had the choice to embrace her Black side or her White side, and guess which one she chose?
     As for the ones that say she looks white so she should be classified as white. Haven’t y’all heard of dye, a straightening iron, and make-up. So maybe her skin isn’t black. I’m Black, If y’all haven’t caught on yet, and my family members and I have fair skin. Most of my family members have lighter skin than her’s. So you’re probably thinking why call us Black when we look more brown or white. But why call you people White, when you look more Pink.
     To conclude, don’t be hatin’ on her because she indulges in the dispensation of being Black. If she wants people to categorize
     her as Black then deal with it!!!

     Posted 03 Dec 2005 at 11:31 am ¶

138. Bel wrote:

     As people we definitely have a long way to go. The issue of race will continue to be more than skin deep. You only have to look at this discussion thread to realize that. People are emotionally vested in the issue and topic of race.

     My question to you all is that, should race matter?

     Posted 04 Dec 2005 at 9:57 am ¶

139. antonia wrote:

     mariah carey is not black. no she is not. people call her black because that is what they want her to be and also because she is ashamed of being white.

     Posted 07 Dec 2005 at 10:57 pm ¶

140. antonia wrote:

     but mariah carey is not black she is mixed she has always called herself mixed just read any article on her and it will tell you she is mixed. but many people feel she should be classified as white because she is more white. so if people want to call her white than accept it. she is as much white as she is black and hispanic. also there was an article where sandra bernhard called mariah carey a phony white bitch who acts niggerish.

     Posted 07 Dec 2005 at 11:03 pm ¶

141. rebecca wrote:

     why is mariah carey a bimbo is it because of the way she dresses. she sings good music.

     Posted 07 Dec 2005 at 11:05 pm ¶

142. mariela wrote:

     mariah carey is a dark skinned half black white woman. one time i saw her video one sweet day(from her fantasy album last decade from 10 years ago 1995) she sang with boys to men and her skin looked so pink. i mean look at those pink legs.

     Posted 07 Dec 2005 at 11:08 pm ¶

143. franchesca wrote:

     okay folks lets talk about something more nice and pleasant.
     what if mariah carey posed on the front cover of a magazine with long curly honey gold brown hair, wearing a bib necklace, tank dress, fishnet stockings and sandahls with a candy cigarette.

     Posted 08 Dec 2005 at 11:37 pm ¶

144. coreen wrote:

     okay so now mariah carey is a pinkish beige woman. since she is not black or white.

     Posted 08 Dec 2005 at 11:40 pm ¶

145. roxanne of the philippines wrote:

     for me it doesnt matter if your white or black as long as you have this good and loving heart its all enough………..for me as a filipina we all known by this brownish or negra skintone but i dont make any problems of it i love my skin and i love being me.those people who are so insecure or those people who discriminate/critic black people……they are wearing ugly mask that it doesnt even fit……so for me mariah carey deserve what she had right now and i know GOD plan all of this for her because she is a good person and she’s not wearing an ugly mask, she’s herself,she’s confident to her self…that’s all and bytheway im a an avid fan of mariah carey i can sing too…hehehe so good luck and maraming salamat sa inyo…mabuhay ang mundo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

     Posted 10 Dec 2005 at 12:46 am ¶

146. rebecca wrote:

     mariah carey is not mulatto.

     Posted 12 Dec 2005 at 7:58 pm ¶

147. teena wrote:

     mc is not black. mc is multiracial. she is mixed.

     Posted 12 Dec 2005 at 8:03 pm ¶

148. kim wrote:

     mariah carey is sensational.

     Posted 13 Dec 2005 at 1:12 pm ¶

149. diedra wrote:

     mariah is not a bimbo.

     Posted 13 Dec 2005 at 1:45 pm ¶

150. magdalena wrote:

     mariah carey rocks.

     Posted 13 Dec 2005 at 3:10 pm ¶

151. Anonymous wrote:

     WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN? BLACK IS AN EXPERIENCE, NOT A COLOR

     mariah carey can identify as anything she wants, but I feel to call herself white would be silly. When was the last time you heard of a white person with a black father?

     Also, in Venezuela there are white and black venezuelans so hispanic is NOT a race….. clumping brown-skinned people from mixico to pale-skinned people in Equador into one clump is stupid

     Posted 13 Dec 2005 at 9:44 pm ¶

152. ashley wrote:

     mariah carey is all ghettoed up and all ghettoed down.

     Posted 14 Dec 2005 at 6:03 pm ¶

153. annabella wrote:

     mariah carey never called herself black or white. she always said she was mixed.

     Posted 14 Dec 2005 at 6:05 pm ¶

154. julia wrote:

     what if mariah carey posed on the front cover of a magazine wearing thunderbolt(lightning bolt) earrings, a long sleeved dress, sheer stockings with the back seams(lines down the back) and sandahls, holding a candy cigarette.

     Posted 14 Dec 2005 at 6:08 pm ¶

155. presmarie wrote:

     when is the last time you heard of a white person with a black father, well if you can be black with a white mother although you are mixed then you can certainly be white with a black father only you would be a mixed race person with a black father as well as mixed race person with a white mother. so what you are saying is that mariah carey is a half white woman(with black hispanic blood) with a hispanic black father. mariah carey is a ghetto lady. some people have said she has been riding the black gravy train for years. black gravy train i have never heard of such

     Posted 14 Dec 2005 at 6:13 pm ¶

156. Anonymous wrote:

     Mariah Carey is MIXED! she is not full white she is not full black and she is not full venezuelan. she only has 25 percent of hispanic in her because her father was half black and half hispanic which makes her mostly half black and half white! she is MIXEd! no matter how hard she tries to look one race which is white, dying her hair blonde etc she will always be a a half white and half black human in this world.and once agai for all you poeple out tere saying “she’s black” she’s white” she’s hispanic” Blah, Blah, BLAH, SHE’S MIXED!!!!!!!!!

     Posted 15 Dec 2005 at 2:04 pm ¶

157. felicia wrote:

     what if mariah carey became a mama. do you believe that 35 years old and still no children.

     Posted 15 Dec 2005 at 7:57 pm ¶

158. franchesca wrote:

     well thanks anonymous for calling mariah carey mixed. nobody could have said it better. i read somewhere on the internet on other articles on mixed race people that some blacks feel mixed race people should have their own racial label.

     Posted 15 Dec 2005 at 8:00 pm ¶

159. Anonymous wrote:

     Maria Carey is a free woman. She can be called what she wants to be called.

     As an African I don’t look at African-Americans as straight up black- they’re mixed. When she calls herself BLACK that means she identifies with African American culture. Calling herself black= representing. End of story. It has little to do with race.

     She should have the freedom to say she is whatever she wants to be. Nobody can label her. She can be black one day and white the next. Who cares. Black is a culture in this country.

     Her father as a hispanic man with mixed heritage identified with black culture so she does too.

     Posted 15 Dec 2005 at 8:50 pm ¶

160. petra wrote:

     brazzil website had a picture of mariah carey all ballheaded that picture looked so freakin scary i wanted to scream to death that picture scared me to death.

     Posted 17 Dec 2005 at 6:48 pm ¶

161. petra wrote:

     if it is okay to call mariah carey black than why is it silly to call her white or hispanic. i dont understand.

     Posted 17 Dec 2005 at 6:50 pm ¶

162. watdaheck wrote:

     i dont know why ya’ll whities are talking about mariah carey or being on the essence site! this is for black people only! So get out of our sit

     Posted 18 Dec 2005 at 12:51 am ¶

163. monkeylumps wrote:

     Shut up, racist…to the commenter above, that is. No, this site isn’t for “black people only.” It is for MIXED people and also for anybody else of other races/backgrounds who want to join in a civilized discussion. No one should be excluded and you can’t see anyone’s color through your computer.

     As I’ve said before, Mariah’s race is her own business. If she wants to identify as mixed, or black or white or Hispanic or whatever, then that is up to her. She is a talented individual (in my humble opinion). She does not look like your average black woman (my humble opinion again), because she isn’t. She is a blend of races & cultural experiences. She is a mixed person. And most African-Americans might have some “other” types of ancestry, but they don’t look like her. Most black people just look like black people, even the light-skinned ones. Some people on the other hand are racially ambiguous so it becomes difficult to put them in a box. I fit this description, so does Mariah Carey, and some other mixed folks as well. Who are we to judge her when we don’t know her personally?

     We shouldn’t try to define other people. Allow them to define themselves & identify with whatever race or culture they feel most comfortable with.

     Posted 18 Dec 2005 at 6:07 pm ¶

164. daisha wrote:

     mariah carey is a balladeer with soul.

     Posted 19 Dec 2005 at 11:24 pm ¶

165. raquel alston wrote:

     hi mariah carey my name is raquel i am 14 and im biracial my mom is irish and my dad is black i wish i can hang with you because your the same as me and i dont get along with anybody because of the racial isue i feel the same as you do left out so can you please write me back thank you.

     Posted 20 Dec 2005 at 7:36 am ¶

166. Natasha wrote:

     Im like her in the sense that my Mother is a Jamaican and my father is russian, im 16 and considered mixed to my self anf should be to others but because I have white skin and features and hair…people hate on me , sometimes either saying that im a white girl trying to be black or a mixed girl wanting to be white

     Posted 20 Dec 2005 at 12:30 pm ¶

167. meg wrote:

     mariah carey is not white trying to be black and she is not black trying to be white. and i am also sorry to hear of a person who posted on here saying that they dont get along with anyone because of the race issue that is very sad because i too am a loner and a hermit because of the race issue and the pressures people put on you because of it.

     Posted 30 Dec 2005 at 7:33 pm ¶

168. Me wrote:

     Aww…you people argue over the dumbest things..believe what you want only leads to ignorance anyhow its the truth thats going to do you good…anyway get a life and log off the net…what you say aint going to change her race. who cares about how much percent of what race she is!

     Posted 03 Jan 2006 at 4:14 pm ¶

169. m wrote:

     me, the one that needs to get a life is you. Ive read every thing up in here people have said about her race. Yall just need to leave her race alone couze that her race and her problem.

     Posted 04 Jan 2006 at 9:27 pm ¶

170. PAISLEY wrote:

     MARIAH CAREY IS AN INTERNATIONAL SINGER.

     Posted 04 Jan 2006 at 9:50 pm ¶

171. FRANCHESCA wrote:

     WHY IS MARIAH CAREY BLACK AND NOT WHITE.

     Posted 04 Jan 2006 at 9:52 pm ¶

172. simone wrote:

     mariah carey is a pop diva

     Posted 05 Jan 2006 at 10:33 pm ¶

173. Matthew wrote:

     look Mariah is mixed race just accept, she is not black, hispanic or white, but mxed its not that rare get over it, and i know how she feels im quarter asian indian, quarter mexican and half white an dpeople always call me white and it pisses me off bcus thats not me, im mixed race! im not indian, im not mexican or white im mixed……

     Posted 06 Jan 2006 at 6:36 pm ¶

174. VERA wrote:

     MARIAH CAREY IS A LEGEND

     Posted 09 Jan 2006 at 9:27 pm ¶

175. mixedgrl wrote:

     Ok I am half white, 40% black and 10% native american and I can definitely identify with mariah carey because people come up to me on the street on a regular basis and tell me I look exactly like her. In my opinion, everyone needs to leave her alone. If she calls herself white, then she is betraying her black side. If she calls herself black and makes hip hop music, than she is betraying her white side. Is there a genre for mixed people exclusively? Not the last time I checked. She has made it known that she is mixed, so she has absolutley no obligation to anyone. I get so much crap from my black friends for dressing “like a white girl”; and my white friends insist on notifying me whenever my hair is “nappy” or I am talking “like a ghetto person”. It’s human nature to notice what race a person happens to be, but asking them to be completely black or white is completely ridiculous and I would like to think that our society has made more progress than that.

     Posted 10 Jan 2006 at 2:57 am ¶

176. mixed_race_and_proud wrote:

     i am mixed race myself, infact im Sri lankan, Colombian and irish, its been hard for me, my asian family get annoyed because i dont understand the language and my hispanic family get annoyed because we live over in england and they all live in the states.. i dnt quite fit into the asian crowd i find myself with the hispanic crowd because i speak spanish.. to me Mariah carey is Mixed race, no doubt about it, look at her features and her olive skin, she has afro-latino features. i wouldn’t class her as white, i would class her as mixed race, like me. and i do think that being mixed race opens your eyes to different cultures. i hope she doesnt forget her roots.

     Posted 10 Jan 2006 at 3:22 pm ¶

177. asha wrote:

     mariah carey can be whatever she wants to be. So if that’s saying she’s mixed or hispanic or white or black or any others, she can.I’m a true Mariah Carey fan and i’m proud.

     Posted 16 Jan 2006 at 6:48 pm ¶

178. asha wrote:

     Mariah can be what she wants when she wants.I am a proud MC fan.

     Posted 16 Jan 2006 at 6:50 pm ¶

179. asha wrote:

     Mariah is awsome and she can be whatever she wants.

     Posted 16 Jan 2006 at 6:52 pm ¶

180. Belle wrote:

     who’s ever hating on marah is just jealous. She has venezuelan blood. News Flash that has nothing to do with the continental united states. If you look at her she does’nt look like any kind of United States citizen who’s family has been here for 100’s of years. She’s a talented, unique and beautifuly EXOTIC women who has european, spanish and some form of north/south african and/or east indian and probably more blood in her vains. Get on a plane and go see the world haters. Then you’ll learn that the archaic terms of black and white in “The States” only means something in the mind of those who are afraid of themselves. Life is not about picking sides it’s about acknowledging all the wonderful things about yourself and holding your head high as an individual. Anything else is simply ignorant, 1 diminsional and just plain old timey. The human race is evolving and your antiquated ideas can’t stop it. They can only stop you.

     Posted 18 Jan 2006 at 7:22 pm ¶

181. okay now wrote:

     There is no such thing as “venezulean blood.” Don’t you know that the people of Venezula (sp?) are a mixed-raced people. Have you ever seen a picture of Mariah Carey’s father? He looked no different than African-Americans living in the United States or continental Africans for that matter. I think peoples’ perceptions on how African-Americans “look” in comparisons to other people of African descent is horribly flawed because such perceptions are based on racial stereotypes. Yes, it is very obvious that Ms. Carey is of mixed ethnic background, but I think some of the posters on this site are exaggerating the phenotypes of Africans and African-Americans in comparison to the phenotypes of other peoples. I think many of the posters on this site are horribly ignorant as to the ethnic make-up of the world’s populations. Many of you are confusing NATIONALITY with RACE/ETHNICITY as in the case of Bella here who belives in “venezulean blood.” Some of you obviously have not spent much time with people of African descent, otherwise you would appreciate the diversity in their forms. Just last night I was watching a program on PBS about the people of the Cameroons. The people came in a variety of skin tones–some were dark/black skinned, some had a reddish undertone, and some were the color of copper. Most of the people had short kinky hair however some had wavy/kinky curly hair (and no these people were not racially mixed as we term it. There was a child briefly featured in the program, who had black curly hair. Both his mother and father were of African descent.) Some of the people had wide noses, others had thin narrow noses. Some had full lips, other thin. My point is that no group of people have a monopoly on full lips, narrow noses, coarse hair, straight hair etc. Many of the “differences” we see and try to affix to race, is more the result of environment, genetic isolation and genetic drift. But because so many of us are so narrow-minded and feel some kind of security from grasping firmly to unscientific, racists stereotypes, we continue to base our assumptions on people and their worth on the illogical notion of race. Mariah Carey has a diverse ethnic background, and more power to her. But lets try to think with reason here. We are all more alike than different, no matter where your forefathers come from.

     Posted 20 Jan 2006 at 3:45 pm ¶

182. Shakean Gifford wrote:

     Mariah Carey is the beautifulest lady I ever seen and if yal have a problem with that yal come to me and we could handle it 1 on 1 or how many people yal want to bring because I’m still gonna come out winner baby, love you Mariah

     Posted 25 Jan 2006 at 7:40 pm ¶

183. Shakean Gifford wrote:

     Mariah Carey is black like me, so if you don’t want yuh feelings hurt, you better back off her right now, love you Mariah, you my sweetheart

     Posted 25 Jan 2006 at 7:43 pm ¶

184. rachel wrote:

     i just read an article on mariah carey yesterday, in the article she said she was not white and when people ask her about her race she would only say black and they would say that she wasnt black. why is mariah carey calling herself black now all of a sudden? what changed her. i thought she always considered herself mixed race like she had been doing in the beginning from 1990(16 years ago) when she released her first titled debut album with the songs loves takes time, vision of love, someday and i dont wanna cry. obviously ever since slavery days mixed race people have been trained to call themselves black.
     but they should continue to fight for their rights to call themselves mixed race. mixed race people should not give up on their rights to slef identify because they have been complaining about being forced to use a monoracial label for years and years now. tha is right mixed race people dont give up.

     Posted 25 Jan 2006 at 10:39 pm ¶

185. evangeline wrote:

     mixed race people like mariah carey should never have to choose to be monoracial.

     Posted 25 Jan 2006 at 10:43 pm ¶

186. evangeline wrote:

     mariah carey is not black she is mixed race at most.

     Posted 25 Jan 2006 at 10:44 pm ¶

187. laura wrote:

     mariah carey is forever mixed race

     Posted 26 Jan 2006 at 9:56 pm ¶

188. JOEWIN Jemang wrote:

     Hi MIMI,

     Im Joewin jemang, 17 years old from the Philippines!!!I love your music and when you start to sing it feels like I’m in heaven…God bless And more Power…all the boys in my class loves you!!!I’m a guy who really wants to find a girl just like you…Hope you will reply…You inspire me a lot!!!!

     Posted 29 Jan 2006 at 8:18 pm ¶

189. wasssupppp wrote:

     shes is not blak have u actually seen real black women from africa they are as black as hell….have u noticed that the black ppl they put on tv have actually light skin(which might mean they are like mixed or sumtin) they neva put real blak women on tv prob cuz it aint dat pretty….i think blak ppl are trying to go closer(their skin) to white ppl so they can b beautiful i mean they have already tried it wit their hairs….their trying to make it like white,hispanic,asian,etcc. ppl hair are like…straight…cuz they kno their hair is to ugly….they say their all blak but they are actually gettin farther away from them trying to change their physical feuters…n i dont tink mariah looks blak at all…n not dat much white either…to me she looks hispanic cuz of her tanish skin(mayb its tan cuz she puts those fake tans on…w/e…she mixed or a mullato…w/e u call it

     Posted 03 Feb 2006 at 8:50 pm ¶

190. kelly wrote:

     muulllattto

     Posted 03 Feb 2006 at 8:51 pm ¶

191. Kaiser wrote:

     Lets face it, this back and forth bickering has nothing to do with mariah, its USA circa 1930s all over again, only difference is that its more subtle. White folks want to cling onto anything that makes their “race” a force to reckon with, years back, if you had “mixed” blood, they wanted nothing to do with you even if you looked liked Beals. Now with other so-called races making gains in previuosly white dominated areas, anything goes. As with black folks, its always an added bonus/ammo to be viewed as equals, so they will welcome anyone who embraces their race/culture with open arms. All these fears being propagated by ignorance and misinformation will keep racial tensions going long after we have left this planet. The mixed individuals whose population is blowing up will have quite a task to fit in, but eventually will be accepted just like any other group. That said, untill the baby boomer generation long fades into the sunset, there will always be racial tensions and the mixed people are the link between the feuding groups…… makes you wonder though, its the 21st century and we are having this discussion…shame on all of us…

     Posted 05 Feb 2006 at 9:46 pm ¶

192. Okay??? wrote:

     I’m not so sure its the mixed people that are the link between the two feuding groups. Many mixed people are racists against African-Americans and think that African-Americans are out to get them. I read so much anti-black propaganda on many of this mixed-raced sites that I have to remind myself that these are non-white people who are making these statements. Some of the stuff I have read mirrors the raving of neo-nazi and white supremists. So long as all people belive that anything black is inferior, there will always exist conflict. I too use to think that persons of mixed raced background were in the forefront of racial harmony, but after logging on to numerous mixed-raced forums I have come to see things differently now.

     Posted 06 Feb 2006 at 2:34 pm ¶

193. Kaiser wrote:

     In regards to “Okay???”’s post ^^^^ …i hear what you are saying…thats totally wrong if some mixed people feel the need to disassociate themselves from the mainstream group to justify they are of better caliber than the rest of mixed people…i would summarize it as the environ they were brought up in… e.g a mixed person who was born into a world where a black,..-mostly a male who was a non-supportive parent did not hold up his end as a parent…

     Lets not forget, nobody is born a racist pig, its a learned thing, or if i may say so, its an acquired taste due to life experiences… i still believe the mixed people play a vital role in reminding us that even in the chaotic and hostile world we live in, at the end of the day, we can still produce charming/ beautiful/ educated/ well adjusted/ and most of all…humans !!! all the difference in the world !! I would give anything in the world to live to see all races live side by side as loving neighbors….

     “If wishes were horses”…so to speak… To quote somebody, “Cant we all just fuck and look the same?”…. I hope so…then we can find some other bizzare reason to hate on each other…..

     Posted 07 Feb 2006 at 12:35 am ¶

194. all american wrote:

     So, it seems that Mariah is a true, red-blooded American.
     This is, after all, the great melting pot. Our genetic diversity may be our greatest protection in the long run. In-breeding often leads to terrible defects. Isn’t it interesting that “whites” lie in the sun to darken their skin, and a “good tan” is a very desirable thing. “Blacks,” even those who claim to be proud of their heritage, see being “light-skinned” as desirable and often straighten and/ or bleach their hair into a more caucasian type of appearance. Is there a perfect skin tone somewhere in between? Perhaps that would be Mariah. I heard years ago that scientists had discovered that there was some common female ancestor, which they named “Eve,” who apparently posessed a very similar genetic makeup as the lovely Mariah. One thing is certain, a seven octive range is absolutely amazing. I hope she has some children to carry on her genetic blessing. I wouldn’t mind having a bit of natural tan, myself. All I have is freckles. I also wish she would return to her natural hair. It was lovely, and much more flattering to her complexion than artificial blond. I say, “Be proud of what God made you!”

     Posted 08 Feb 2006 at 10:55 pm ¶

195. all american wrote:

     What is the highest note that Mariah can sing? Does anyone know? I wonder if she has ever tried opera just for fun when she was bored. I heard recently that in 1999 a young French woman, Marie-Sol Chevalier, had broken the world record for highest note sung, the C above high C. I have a hard time imagining any notes higher than Mariah’s. How does she compare to that record, I wonder, or doesn’t it count if it isn’t opera? It seems to me that opera would be much more interesting with a voice that had as much character as Mariah’s. Just a thought.

     Posted 08 Feb 2006 at 11:24 pm ¶

196. damita jo wrote:

     for cryin out loud! this has been an ongoing issue. im also mixed and that does not matter. why make a big fuss about it anyways.. all that matters is that mariah can sing, and that she is the best singer i know of. love her, hate her or what not.. it doesn’t matter to me. i’ll always be a fan of mariah. she’s the best. ;)

     Posted 09 Feb 2006 at 9:16 am ¶

197. LINEA wrote:

     MARIAH CAREY IS A TRAGIC MULATTO.

     Posted 09 Feb 2006 at 11:09 pm ¶

198. NATALIE wrote:

     WHY IS MARIAH BLACK BUT NOT WHITE. I THOUGHT SHE WAS MIXED.

     Posted 14 Feb 2006 at 11:32 pm ¶

199. Jaleesa wrote:

     I dont care if she considers herself to be black or white shes still a person. and i feel that the way things are going niw we aint gone have to worry about it because every body gone be all mixed up its just gone be one race anyways (Now how bout that)
     From a black reader

     Posted 15 Feb 2006 at 12:31 pm ¶

200. Anon wrote:

     There is already one race, the human race.

     Posted 15 Feb 2006 at 3:37 pm ¶

201. meg wrote:

     mariah is number one.

     Posted 15 Feb 2006 at 10:51 pm ¶

202. leg wrote:

     Mariah Carey! Its not interesting if shes black or white! shes sexyy!!

     Posted 18 Feb 2006 at 4:40 pm ¶

203. lora wrote:

     mariah carey could be the next thalia.

     Posted 18 Feb 2006 at 7:44 pm ¶

204. Leigh-Anne wrote:

     Look, if Mariah Carey wants to say she’s pink or green or blue, then let her. It’s none of our business what she chooses to identify as. She’s always said she’s bi-racial, despite much much much resistance and pressure to identify as something someone else says she should. She’s remained true to herself, and for that I salute her: It takes a strong person to do that. And as for other people trying to co-opt her to their race, for crying out loud, please stop. She’s not going around telling YOU which label to wear, so why should YOU try to force HER to wear a label YOU feel more confortable with?????

     Posted 22 Feb 2006 at 7:22 am ¶

205. lanny mendez wrote:

     i will love mariah no matter what people say!!! mariah if you read this,”i love you,will you marry me???.”
     mariah is beautiful just the way or colour she is, red,black,green, yellow or pink!!!

     Posted 24 Feb 2006 at 5:50 pm ¶

206. nina wrote:

     so green is the only color that matters. well i dont hear mariah saying she is green as in cash money.

     Posted 01 Mar 2006 at 11:11 pm ¶

207. she may not... wrote:

     she may not state that she is green (what a simplistic response nina) but after getting a glimpse of her Manhatten digs on Barbara Walters last night, trust me she’s not thinking about her ethnic background 24/7. She didn’t get wealthy by sitting around calculating how much “black” and “white” she got in her. The bills come each month, no matter what your ethnic background is. So yes, in this capitalist society GREEN IS THE ONLY COLOR THAT MATTERS!!!

     Posted 02 Mar 2006 at 5:03 pm ¶

208. lilian wrote:

     mariah carey is hispanic(venezuelan) why doesnt she work with any hispanics. i once read an article on her 5 years ago that she wanted to go to venezuela to research her fathers venezuelan geneology.

     Posted 02 Mar 2006 at 11:07 pm ¶

209. chrisiplin wrote:

     Kudos to Lilian. She brings to light my beef with Mariah. Why not work with Latin artists? Mariah said something in a Spin magazine interview about her heritage. She does acknowledge being black, irish and venezuelan. but she prefers to run with the black image because it is cooler and people understand that black people have suffered. ms. carey obviously does not know anything about irish people and their struggles. it is a shame that she would pick one race over another just to sell records. if she cannot celebrate all of her races, then she should never market herself as mixed.

     Posted 04 Mar 2006 at 8:59 am ¶

210. you know... wrote:

     Let not forget that her last relationship was with a hispanic male –Luis Miguel. That fact right there tends to debunk the argument that she has no affinity for Hispanic culture.

     Also, lets not forget the Carey is an artist first and foremost who is in the business of selling records. Her tendency to not work with Latin artists (which is not true. She recorded a Spanish duet with her former boyfriend Luis Miguel) might have more to do with aestetics than with ethnic hatred.

     Also you have to consider Carey’s upbring. She was raised by her mother who is Irish-American. Her father had very little influence on her life. That tends to explain why CULTURALLY she perhaps has more affinty for American Culture (which is influnced more by black culture than hispanic culture, especially when it comes to music) that Hispanic culture. The woman can only be what she is. There is a difference between having mixed ancestry and being grounded in a particular culture. Carey is grounded in American culture. Because she is in an industry that is dominated by Black culture–after all African-Americans inveneted Rock n’ Roll–and she tries to label herself as an R’B artists, it is not surprising that she would gravitate towards African-American producers/artists etc. as opposed to latino producers/artists. Though that’s not to say she has never or will never work with latino artists/producers. When she has an interest in making a latin infused album, I’m sure she will call on the lation producers/artists to help her out. Until then. why don’t some of you get a life and stop trying to put your head on her body. The woamn cant think for herself and live whatever lefe she choses. She doesn’t need anyone’s permission on what type of music to produce or what producers to work with. Music is music period. Stop trying to racialize everything.

     Posted 06 Mar 2006 at 2:15 pm ¶

211. zoey wrote:

     mariah carey is a crossover (soft rock to r and b soul) artist.

     Posted 06 Mar 2006 at 11:30 pm ¶

212. marna wrote:

     wait a minute calm down folks no need to be hostile or sarcastic. nobody said mariah has to have anyones permission to work with any music producers or what type of music to work with. the question why doesnt mariah work with any hispanic musicians is not an insult, this question was only asked out of curiousity. so dont get offensive. besides why do people say mariah is only black when it is convient when selling records. i dont see other people getting their heads bit off for saying that.

     Posted 06 Mar 2006 at 11:39 pm ¶

213. TAMINA wrote:

     MARIAH MAREY IS CONFUSED.
     ARE YOU SURPRISED EVERYONE ELSE IS.
     i WATCHED HER DISS HER BLACK FATHER CLAIMIN SHE WAS FULL WHITE.
     SHE’S BLACK WHEN SHE WANTS TO MAKE A HIT.
     WHY DO YOU THINK SHE’S NEVER GOT THE SAME FRIENDS FOR LONG?
     HAVE YOU NOT NOTICED HOW FAKE AND DUMB HER SO CALLED FRIENDS LOOK ON CRIBS?
     THATS BECAUSE SHE PAID EM!
     NOBODY STICKS AROUND HER FOR LONG BECAUSE SHE USES PEOPLE.
     YEAH SHE CAN SING, YEAH SHE’S PRETTY BUT THATS AS FAR AS IT GOES.
     SHE’S AS SHALLOW AS A NASEL PIERCING.
     WHY DO YOU THINK SHE ALWAYS LOOKS PERFECT?
     BECAUSE SHE KNOWS SHE’S NOT.
     NOW LEAVE HER ALONE.
     SHE HAS TO DEAL WITH LONLINESS THATS HARD ENOUGH EN IT?

     Posted 08 Mar 2006 at 7:17 am ¶

214. nafimim wrote:

     wow… TAMINA… you talk and talk, but all I hear is hate, hate, hate. seriously, i doubt you even know anything about mariah, let alone if her friends are really her friends.

     Posted 08 Mar 2006 at 10:57 pm ¶

215. LADONNA wrote:

     I SAW MARIAH CAREYS NAME UNDER A LIST OF IRISH AMERICANS.

     Posted 08 Mar 2006 at 11:14 pm ¶

216. ELIZA wrote:

     IS THE REASON WHY MARIAH MAY NOT DATE BLACK GUYS IS BECAUSE SOMEWHERE I READ THAT SHE WAS WITH THIS BLACK GUY AND HE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED AND BRAGGED ABOUT IT, HE WAS QUOTED AS SAYING, HE WANTED TO TEAR HER ASS UP IF THAT REALLY HAPPENED SHE SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT GUY ARRESTED AND PUT IN JAIL OR BETTER YET SHE SHOULD HAVE HAD THE POLICE TO DO A CHOKE HOLD THAT GUY AND KILL THE BASTARD LIKE THEY DID RADIO RAHEEM ON THE 1989 MOVIE DO THE RIGHT THING OR MAYBE THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE EXCUTED THE GUY BECAUSE SEXUAL ASSAULT IS NOT FUNNY IT IS A VERY SERIOUS CRIME AND THE LAW SHOULD BECOME STRICTER AND STRICTER ON IT.

     Posted 08 Mar 2006 at 11:20 pm ¶

217. What? wrote:

     Eliza, dear, you need help. First I’ve never heard Mariah say any such thing, which makes me believe that you are nothing but a troll looking for attention. Grow up and shut up.

     Posted 09 Mar 2006 at 10:05 am ¶

218. karina wrote:

     mariah carey could be the next sean young with her caucasian appearing phenotype.

     Posted 09 Mar 2006 at 11:37 pm ¶

219. eliza wrote:

     what no no no dont tell me to shut up because i dont have to. i dont appreciate you talking like that to me. and i could care less if you think my opinion is garbage i could say the same for you, your opinion is garbage and who the hell do you think you are criticizing me and who are you to judge me and dont you ever ever come off on me like that again dammit do you understand me. and yes i did read on the net somewhere that mariah was sexually assaulted by some guy. i am not looking for attention. so dont be down talking me like i am not having that. do you understand me. i may not be a model person but i am not dirt either. so watch your mouth and dont ever insult me again.

     Posted 09 Mar 2006 at 11:43 pm ¶

220. coreen wrote:

     why dont everyone on here all just shut the hell up and drop dead i am tired of all this arguing over miss carey. that woman is not giving any of you guys a penny of her money and she is not even think about you so stop worrying about that 36 year old woman. and stop harassing others on this board i am not playing. we need some rules against personal attacks here on these boards because that is all people on this board do is argue. this shit is ridiculous and life is too short. now dammit all of you knock it off now. i have heard enough.

     Posted 09 Mar 2006 at 11:48 pm ¶

221. margaret wrote:

     you are right coreen it is a controversial debate on miss carey and people post about her like they own her but they dont.

     Posted 09 Mar 2006 at 11:49 pm ¶

222. antonia wrote:

     why is it everytime somebody posts comments on miss carey other posters get on here shooting off their damn funky mouths about that person and starts being rude and verbally abusive which is totally unnecessary?

     Posted 10 Mar 2006 at 7:16 pm ¶

223. antonia wrote:

     Eliza, do you have proof of any article where mariah carey was sexually assaulted by some afro american guy? i once read on some site 4 years ago that mariah carey was once raped by an asian male and i heard that she does not like asians and some person said she should go back to her corner where her ex husband picked her up that night. also you have people in mariah careys business. there are sites where people call mariah careys sister a hooker and a whore also, why is it 4 years ago people were calling miss carey a slut ho bitch and whore? where do people get all this information from? what do they do? do they do an investigation check on miss carey like some damn CIA or FBI agent or private investigator(private detective) or do they watch miss carey and her family under surveillance. or do they have closed circuit tv cameras all over her house and or follow her everywhere she goes to see what she does and who she is with (my family once told me that the government is in people bedrooms because the government controls everything), people are all in miss careys business how does she deal with that. and as for the other poster that ignorantly insulted you miss eliza dont pay that fool any mind, some people are just jealous and say ugly insulting spiteful nasty things about others they should check themselves before they are so quick to ignorantly judge others, the world would be a much better place without certain types of people. but does anyone know that we are living in the last days of evil that is why so many bad things are happening now that is what my family talks about.

     Posted 10 Mar 2006 at 7:32 pm ¶

224. oh my goodness wrote:

     I agree the insults should stop, but do any of you read over your posts? Some of you sound like you come from the insane asylum.

     Maybe you all are spending too much time on the internet. You know you can find more credible information at your local public library.

     Posted 13 Mar 2006 at 3:12 pm ¶

225. BEATRIZ wrote:

     TAMINA WHY IS MARIAH CAREY CONFUSED WHAT DOES SHE HAVE TO BE CONFUSED ABOUT.

     Posted 14 Mar 2006 at 11:28 pm ¶

226. TASHA wrote:

     ONE DAY IN DECEMBER 1998 ALMOST 8 YEARS AGO I SAW MARIAH CAREY IN JET MAGAZINE SINGING A SONG WITH WHITNEY HOUSTON AND MARIAH LOOKED SO HYPER AND WILD.

     Posted 14 Mar 2006 at 11:52 pm ¶

227. vivian wrote:

     no some posters do not sound like fools from the insane asylum. that remark was uncalled for. some people deserve a speech impairment for such ridiculous ignorant shit trash they say about others.

     Posted 16 Mar 2006 at 11:14 pm ¶

228. antonia wrote:

     some people who post rude comments toward other on this board should have their comments deleted

     Posted 16 Mar 2006 at 11:16 pm ¶

229. EVA wrote:

     MARIAH CAREY IS NOT CONFUSED

     Posted 16 Mar 2006 at 11:18 pm ¶

230. KELLY wrote:

     THE INSULTS SHOULD STOP BECAUSE THEY WONT GET ANYONE ANYWHERE. BESIDES THOSE OF YOU WHO PUT DOWN OTHER PEOPLE ARE NOT BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE. DONT ANY OF YOU KNOW IT IS NOT RIGHT TO JUDGE.

     Posted 20 Mar 2006 at 11:22 pm ¶

231. CELIA wrote:

     MARIAH CAREY SHOULD KEEP CONSIDERING HERSELF MIXED RACE LIKE SHE HAS ALWAYS DONE IN THE PAST SINCE HER SELF TITLED DEBUT ALBUM FROM 16 YEARS AGO(IN 1990) AND SWALLOW HER PRIDE ALSO THERE IS AN ORGANIZATION FOR MIXED FOLKS AND OTHER RACE CALLED SWIRL I BET MISS CAREY WOULD PROBABLY BE IN TO THAT KIND OF THING SINCE IT IS HARD TO BE MIXED RACE IT IS A NO WIN SITUATION. I GET SO SICK AND TIRED OF OTHER POSTERS ON THIS BOARD MAKING SMART ASS IGNORANT STUPID SENSELESS INSULTING VERBALLY ABUSIVE OUT OF LINE COMMENTS WE DONT NEED THIS SHIT TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE TAKE IT TO THE STREETS WHERE IT BELONGS WE DONT NEED THAT KIND OF POISON IN HERE ANTONIA MARGARET COREEN AND ELIZA YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT IMMATURE OR INSULTING OR SENSELESS SO DONT LET OTHERS ON THIS BOARD INTIMIDATE YOU INTO NOT POSTING.

     Posted 20 Mar 2006 at 11:34 pm ¶

232. tiffani wrote:

     mariah has her own life to live she is not giving anyone here a penny of her money so why dont people stop worrying about her and have a happy life and do something creative for yourselves.

     Posted 03 Apr 2006 at 10:40 pm ¶

233. anastacia wrote:

     what if mariah’s album came under CBS AND EPIC.

     Posted 05 Apr 2006 at 10:33 pm ¶

234. stephanie wrote:

     when mariah used to have reddish hair 16 years ago when she released her first album she reminded me of isabella toscano kiriakus(staci greason) who played on days of our lives for three years 1989-1992.

     Posted 06 Apr 2006 at 10:46 pm ¶

235. winona wrote:

     mariah identifies more with blacks than whites because she likes blacks more and she does not like whites.

     Posted 21 Apr 2006 at 6:40 pm ¶

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     Posted 30 Jun 2006 at 10:56 am ¶

237. CHACH wrote:

     Maria is BEAUTIFUL!!!!!! HATERS!!!!!

     Posted 22 Jul 2006 at 9:21 pm ¶

238. CHACH wrote:

     MARIAH is BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!! DON’T HATE!!!!!!!

     Posted 22 Jul 2006 at 9:23 pm ¶

239. BriAnna wrote:

     Mariah Carey iz a beautiful talented artist. I duznt 2 much mattur 2 me wut race/color she iz. I lyke her and her music. Az long az she aint actin ignorant and talkin bout utha races im kool.

     Posted 24 Jul 2006 at 4:49 pm ¶

240. Anonymous wrote:

     first of irish and venezuelan is a nationallity not a race and her parents are both from america so her nationallity is…american. also it is quite obvious that her mother isnt a black irish woman but her father is black and venezuelan no one knows what kind of venezuelan he is so for all we know her race could be half and half also no one is so called “pure” we are all mixed just some more than others also i could see how mariah is a conflicted woman since some white people may not except her for being white and some black people may not except her when really its not really up to them. i can relate to her my mother is black and white and its quite obvious since she has light skin n black features but she likes to identify herself as black or african american and my father well his mother is puertorican with a more hispanic descent not quite afro latin and his father is arabic and with black descent both his parents are light n he is dark so he likes to identify hiself as black being that he was passed around ohio harlem and the islands all his life so when he was familiar with just being black so i just consider my self black although my puertorican grandma says i should speak spanish more often since my dads step dad is also hispanic so i never see my black grandpa and i know i am part puerto rican but i have light brown skin so its easier to say black although i may look a bit mixed its just easy that way but for someone to tell you ur not black or ur not white its not there place to say that if she wants to identify her black side more let her since who are we to tell her she cant or vice versa all we know her as is mariah im mean we have names for a reason you dont have to call her white girl blacke girl mutt etc… she is mariah and thats alll that matters!!!!

     Posted 02 Sep 2006 at 6:46 pm ¶

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